Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Perth

	Perth Meetup Next: 3 December 2023 (watch) Last: 22 July 2023 Other events: WikiClubWest events were suspended due to COVID-19; future events may or may not be subject to restrictions.
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Wikimedia Hackathon satellite event?

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG: Would any of you be interested in taking part in a Wikimedia Hackathon satellite event on May 19, 20 or 21? I'm thinking a small thing in Fremantle (or any other suitable venue we can get for free), to hack on whatever gadgets/tools/etc. that people want. Sam Wilson 01:21, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Good idea - well worth the effort... JarrahTree 10:09, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Would Saturday or Sunday be best? I think Friday is probably not good, unless it's an evening thing. Sam Wilson 02:25, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

An agenda at Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/78 – with more details, and times for specific activities ([1], 3rd bullet point, What will they need to join and contribute? What would be the content of the event (program, activities)?) – would be helpful. Mitch Ames (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Hold your horses Mitch - the details will be up in plenty of time, - it is like any other meetup, there is nothing required if you wish to attend as a social member - if you are the slightest interested in the technical part - bring your laptop or device, but there is no compulsion to be anything other than social - the added aspects of programme or activities are being planned to make it a component of the larger event - and will be ascertained closer to the time, why there are more than 50 sleeps before the event... JarrahTree 09:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames and JarrahTree: Sorry for the lack of details! Basically, it's a weekend of hacking on whatever tools, scripts, templates, etc. — and that includes non-coding work like writing documentation, reporting bugs, writing feature requests etc. so it's not just limited to programmers. We've got the meeting space in Freo for the day, and can make of it whatever we want. There will be people working at the big hackathon in Athens, and they're 5 hours behind us in Perth so I guess our afternoon will be more likely to overlap with them. Sam Wilson 01:16, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Which means with less than 25 sleeps left, perhaps we need to spread the message a little further than current meetup names - as it is an important part of the wikipedia year, in a sense that there are hookups/links that occur around the Athens based activity... JarrahTree 01:24, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

I might attend. The ics calendar link is for 10 pm though. I want to work on a personal wikibase installation and just catch up socially. MavropaliasG (talk) 11:57, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@MavropaliasG: Sounds good! See you on Sunday. And thanks for noticing the calendar error, I've fixed it now. Sam Wilson 01:07, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Meetup 79

On Sunday 18th June - further info to be provided later - JarrahTree 09:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG: Date now changed to Sat 22 July – see Perth 79. Bahnfrend (talk) 04:26, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

What time of day would be good? 10AM? Sam Wilson 05:11, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Pretty much any time's OK by me. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:48, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend, JarrahTree, and Mitch Ames: Okay, 1 pm it is. Sound okay? Sam Wilson 00:02, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

OK Mitch Ames (talk) 00:31, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

OK Bahnfrend (talk) 04:57, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Meetup 80

@Bahnfrend, Bjenks, Dan arndt, Evad37, Gnangarra, JarrahTree, Mitch Ames, Orderinchaos, Samwilson, Pauline Joseph WA, Dwertyorga, and MavropaliasG: Hi all! Does anyone feel like an end-of-year meetup? Coffee at the state library this weekend, December 2nd at 10AM? (To throw out a random date and time.) Sam Wilson 08:50, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Discussion on Telegram is tending towards Sunday 2nd at 10AM. Preferences? Sam Wilson 09:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

My preference is to discuss it on Wikipedia, using the same generic web browser that I already use to edit Wikipedia, rather than on Telegram, which requires downloading and running some additional software and supplying personal information to some third-party company. Mitch Ames (talk) 09:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: My preference is to discuss it on Wikipedia That's where we are discussing it? The chat on Telegram is irrelevant, I only mention it because the people there don't seem to want to come here to talk about it, and I'm trying to keep everyone in the loop. Telegram is fairly widely used in the Wikimedia movement (not that I particularly like it), and I don't think it's too bad that there's chat happening there. If you've got a solution to the ridiculous modern proliferation of communication channels then I'm all ears, but for now we have to put up with it. :-) Sam Wilson 09:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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this weekend, December 2nd ... Sunday 2nd ... ?
We might discuss the matter on several different platforms, but can we at least all agree to use the same calendar :-)
Mitch Ames (talk) 09:58, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: hehe yes oops! There was no change in date, it was me getting confused! :) Sam Wilson 10:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

the state library this weekend — https://slwa.wa.gov.au/plan-my-visit/spaces-visit/ground-co-cafe says "Ground + Co Cafe ... Open 7:30 am to 2:00 pm, Monday to Friday" (but https://groundandco.com.au/feed-a-group/group-table-bookings/ does not appear to explicitly exclude weekends). Mitch Ames (talk) 10:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Under no circumstances will it be known as 80 - anything but. 79 and 3/18ths or something like that JarrahTree 12:26, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Why not 80? Mitch Ames (talk) 11:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Mitch I am not going to try to explain here JarrahTree 12:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• I'm sailing on Saturday 2nd December but am free on the Sunday. Dan arndt (talk) 11:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• Either day (this or another weekend), and any reasonable time or location, is fine by me. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• Well it seems like I really don't know how to organise a piss up in a brewery (or a coffee meetup in a cafe)! Sorry for the mess with the dates and places. :-) How about we try for Sunday at 10AM at the AGWA café (which appears to be open 9–5 on Sundays)? Sam Wilson 22:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• Sunday 10am works for me. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• Me too. Bahnfrend (talk) 05:53, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

• I've updated Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/80 for Sunday 3rd at 10AM. (If I've stuffed up those dates or times again, please just throw a boot at me.)

Sunday midday ish would be preferred and really quite serious about not calling it meeting 79 and anything that allows us to have 80 in 2024 JarrahTree 09:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

quite serious about not calling it meeting 79 and anything that allows us to have 80 in 2024 — Again, why? Mitch Ames (talk) 09:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

again mitch not online here - find out when we meet... JarrahTree 09:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

find out when we meet — I'm sure if we have concensus then, we can retrospectively rename/renumber the meetup, but in the meantime, WP:BRD, WP:STATUSQUO, WP:COMMONSENSE suggests that we should leave it as 80 for now, hence [2][3]. Mitch Ames (talk) 10:13, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Mitch you are so wrong, confusing online principles against a live people meeting. Very wrong,

and in the 70 or more meetings that I have been involved in I have never seen you involved in any of the organisation and background meetings in the last 10 years.

I fail to see why you feel the need to dictate to the people who organise meetings as to how and what happens. If you have the need to organise the meeting, maybe you should take the responsibility. If you cannot understand that some issues are not shared with you due to your astonishing reading of what constitutes privacy, that is your problem, not ours. Simply editing wikipedia as you do is potentially much more revealing about you as any registration with organisations you question. JarrahTree 10:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Update 1st December

Number

Wikimedia meetups in Perth are not solely about with confusion between Real life and wikipedia. Apologies to potential attendees who have to have to deal with such items themselves. Real life can be indeed as challenging as belonging to the wikipedia community. I have no intention of offering wikipedia conventions to something as simple organising a meetup, anyone who wishes to impose such, please do it somewhere else in real life, and not on wikipedia. Thanks.

Due to circumstances of this sunday, it will not be considered to be number 80, that will be dealt with, with no specific reference to wikipedia mechanisms involved. It is occurring in real life, and is funnily enough, not negotiable. The specific issues surrounding the number 80, and the reasons for not exploring the issue here, will be provided to anyone attending Sunday's event. As Bjenks has supplied his apology, I will be personally delivering the information in due course. Anyone else (including anonymous editors curious) is welcome to leave a message at my talk page, and I will provide the information by email, or whatever means that is reasonable.

Time

Due to circumstances beyond our control, the time of the meetup is no longer possible earlier in the day, and is to be mid day or after. Again, not negotiable, it will not be in the morning.

Logistics

Any suggestions of the specific location of meetup are still open due to the change in time.

Organisation for 2024

There are a number of issues re the meetups in the coming 6 months, and 12 months, that require some effort of clarification of levels of involvement. In some years passed, we have been very fortunate to have had expeditions to places and events outside of the Perth metropolitan area, or in a range of locations that are not easily approached without some level of organisation. It is proposed to have a separate organisaing meeting in the new year, before even 80, and anyone interested in helping is most welcome to put their hand up.

There will be, hopefully, in the new year an automatically monthly contact point that requires no negotiation with reality or wikipedia or vice versa, where editors (including anonymous editors) are able to communicate on wiki with fellow editors who are involved in Perth and Western Australian topics, that require as little effort to identify when, why and how that will be available.

Also some events in 2024 will be slightly more ambitious in scope compared to recent years events, and will require support from fellow Perth based wikipedians - anonymous locals included.

Meetups to date

Have been social events, and just that. Please note that they are under the WMAU Safe Places policy, please note that the policy is very specifically for all attendees well being. More information is available about this policy.

Failing all the formality

To all the watchers, whoever and where ever you may be (?) https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-30&pages=Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Perth have a wonderful and safe festive season and new year!

This is also a greeting to those no longer willing or able to be involved with meetups, please have a very safe and happy festive season, and may real life be very positive in the new year!

JarrahTree 01:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC) as one of the organisers on behalf of all involved.

2024

Anyone planning anything for 2024 yet? Public transport is now free every Sunday btw [4], not just the first of the month. - Evad37 [talk] 22:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)