Wikipedia talk:Article alerts/Bugs/Archive/2018

Ancient markup

  Bug fixed

Filled by: SMcCandlish (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 04:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Link(s):

Comments:

Would be nice if this stopped using <tt>...</tt>, an element which hasn't existed in HTML for over a decade. Try <code>...</code>, or perhaps <samp>...</samp>. Or, if the styling doesn't have any semantic significance, then <span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">...</span> (the doubled pseudo-family is required to work around one browser bug or another).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

A specific example would be nice, and this should likely be made at WP:AALERTS/FR so everyone can chip in. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:19, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

The top quick-links are wrapped in this. Changed to using <samp>...</samp>. Doesn't make any real difference, except "breaks" on older browsers, I guess. Not using <span>...</span>, because makes the text small and I don't want to add even more markup. <code>...</code>, <var>...</var>, and <kbd>...</kbd> all seem less "correct". Will get updated when the bot changes the report pages. May take a while on some. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:22, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Organic Narratives - reporting closed AfD when the AfD tag is readded

  Rare unfixable corner-case

Filled by: Shaidar cuebiyar (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 09:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): [1] [2]

Comments:

Check article history for Organic Narratives. It was AfDed back in October 2015, but was declined as no consensus. More recently two new editors have attempted to delete it, in a variety of ways including resubmitting it for AfD but using the old AfD. The editors have been warned to follow the appropriate procedure. I'm here because of an article alert at Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian music.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:29, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting. Unfortunately, that's a rare consequence of incorrect tagging. The bot saw the tag/category and assumed the article was AfDed. It so happens the discussion is closed/archived, but the bot doesn't know how to report something like this other than normally. I will look into adding some sort of check for this. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 09:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Delsort entries not picked up

  Bug fixed

Filled by: Paul 012 (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 09:11, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand/Article alerts, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Thailand

Comments: Not sure if this is a bug or a result of incorrect configuration, but the bot doesn't seem to add non-banner-tagged entries from Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Thailand to Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand/Article alerts. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:41, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for report. I don't know why the bot didn't pick these up. May be I broke something during recent delsort changes. I tested it with other cases and it worked, so there must be something unique here. I'll investigate. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:04, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Not sure if this is related? There's also a space before and after the = in the subscription template. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:37, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

That looks fine. The report page is in Category:Article alert reports via delsort page subscription, so the bot correctly picked up the delsort. I just don't know why it didn't collect the pages. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:55, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

I believe this is the same issue as the more generic Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts/Bugs#Delsort_pages_not_picked_up I fixed below. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Does appear to be working now (at least for some entries), thanks for taking care of this. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Stale entry under a redirect

  Not a bug

Filled by: Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 19:34, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:Article alerts/Problem entries/Old

Comments: Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Royal Yugoslav Navy/archive1 is linked from the abovementioned page despite it passing (albeit under a different name). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:34, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for checking the old reports page. The page was reported because Talk:Royal Yugoslav Navy is still in Category:Wikipedia Good topic candidates because {{GTCmain|Royal Yugoslav Navy|1}} was still on the talk page. I removed it and the bot should see it as closed next run. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Another outdated entry

  Not a bug

Filled by: Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 19:38, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:Article alerts/Problem entries/Old

Comments: Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/M.I.A. albums/addition4 was apparently passed but it's still listed in the "problem entries" page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:38, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

The page was reported because Talk:M.I.A. discography is still in Category:Wikipedia featured topic candidates because {{FTCaddmain|M.I.A. albums|4}} was still on the talk page. I removed it and the bot should see it as closed next run. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:39, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Entries not being unbolded

  Bug fixed

Filled by: Sir Sputnik (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 15:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article alerts

Comments: Usually when the bot runs an update, on a page, it unbolds all of the pages added in the previous update. For some reason this isn't happening on the WP:FOOTY alerts page. Obviously this isn't a big deal, but I suspect it's also not intended behaviour. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting. Yeah, I noticed it a couple days ago. It's not intended. I think the problem is that the bot fails to save its data after a run and starts each run from old data, so it thinks all the bold items are new. The problem is likely that my hosting changed some server settings and I think the upload is silently failing. I've been tinkering with settings, but it takes a day to test. I think it's probably fixed tomorrow. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 16:21, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

The bot finally correctly uploaded its data, so today should be the last broken report day. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 09:56, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Same as Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Article alerts and others Hhkohh (talk) 13:55, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Seems to be back to normal. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:14, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

RFDs don't link to discussions

  Bug fixed

Filled by: Headbomb (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 04:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Article_alerts#RfD

Comments:

RFDs don't link to discussions apparently. They should. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

It's because the template syntax changed and no one notified us. I'll need to see how the new substed module-based RfD stuff works. I think it's the <includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>#invoke:RfD stuff that's not seen as "template" by the bot. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

The regex was out of date to the syntax. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 12:50, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Struck out DYKN blurb in reports

  Bug fixed   (blurbs suspended)

Filled by: Hellknowz (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 17:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): [3]

Comments:

Not sure if I want to parse all options and grab the active one somehow or just strip the strike. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 17:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

[4] —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 12:10, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

No longer causes issues, but still reports first one.

DYNK appear and disappear

  Bug fixed

Filled by: Hellknowz (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 17:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): added gone added; recent is fine

Comments:

No clue what is going on there and why it only affects DYKNs. I've been debugging and cleaning things up. Hopefully, I accidentally fixed whatever was broken, but we'll see. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 17:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Appears that the latest stuff works. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:27, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

DYKN blurbs not retrieved

  Bug fixed   (when stricken)

  Bug fixed   (quotes, whitespace)

Filled by: Hellknowz (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 13:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): report disc strike

Comments:

<s> breaks syntax. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Fixed.

[5] <del> used.

[6] wrapped in quotes.

[7] multiple newlines.

[8] extra whitespace.

Redirect result target article includes section name in links

  Bug fixed

Filled by: Hellknowz (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 13:15, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): [9]

Comments:

Fixed.

DYKN blurb invalid characters

  Bug fixed

Filled by: Hellknowz (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 11:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): [10]

Comments:

There is {{`s}} in the blurb. I thought they can only be text. Need to strip templates. And replace some with text, like this one. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

[11] Hopefully fixed. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

WPVG/AA - Not marking closed AfDs

  One-time bug

Filled by: Salvidrim! (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 07:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article alerts

Comments: Not detecting closed AfDs as closed since January 5th. It updates the rest (including new AfDs) just fine. May be related to higher-than-normal volume of nominations over the past few weeks? Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 07:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I only see Life of Black Tiger, which was re-nominated too quickly, so the bot is still pointing to the old first nomination (it doesn't see it as a new nomination). An edge case scenario and something the bot isn't smart enough to detect. I'll have the bot reget that page next time. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 12:30, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

After my report here, the bot came by and archived 20+ requests that had been closed for a few days. ^_^ Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 14:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh right, I assume there was something incomplete with those then. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 16:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Not updating Footy page

  Rare unfixable corner-case

Filled by: Sir Sputnik (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 16:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article alerts

Comments: AAlertBot stopped updating Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article alerts a few days ago. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that its last update correctly added some 2000+ TfD's to the page. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

I can't really tell (without manually running and examining) what the exact issues is, but it's very likely the size of the report. Biography report was similarly failing to deliver because it was megabytes in size and just failing to post. There's nothing I can really do without fundamentally changing how the bot can filter/subpage/split the report/sections/entries. It would not be a small task, and I don't know if it is worth it. We don't often get 13k active TfDs, with thousands in the same project. It's one of those corner-case problems where the solution is disproportionately more complex than the rate of occurrence. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 12:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@Hellknowz: In that case is there some kind of work around to get back up and running? Would manually archiving the deleted templates help? (The idea being to bring the page size back down to something the bot can handle.) I need to disagree with your assessment here. Yes, it's not something that comes often, but it has completely broken article alerts for the affected WikiProject. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

What @Hellknowz: means is that the man-hour cost of fixing the error is not worth the benefits it brings. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Besides disabling TfD delivery in the subscription (which you can do), there's nothing you can manually do. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 17:35, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I didn't misunderstand what was meant, I just don't think that leaving article alerts broken for the second largest project to use the feature is a reasonable course of action (only WP:USA has a larger AA-archive). I get that recoding the bot to deal with this sort thing generally might not be the best use of your time, but we do need a solution to the problem we already have. In that vein, how do I go about disabling TfD delivery, and what happens if I do? Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Broken for a week ish, and it's something that can be worked around per below. I also suggest restoring the TFD subscription once this massive nomination is dealt with. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

You can add |workflows=ALL,!TFD in the project's subscription template on the subscription page. This will simply mean there won't be TfDs on the list for this project. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 18:27, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I've gone ahead and done that. Let's hope it works. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

HDMI peer review

  Not a bug

Filled by: Soetermans (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 14:17, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

WP:VG/AA:

Comments:

Hi everyone and @Hellknowz: in particular,

I noticed that the article HMDI suddenly popped up for peer review, dated 15 November 2013, suggested by Acalycine (talk · contribs).

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, I'm in my phone and it's a pain to look stuff. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 14:17, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

@Soetermans: well, there is an outstanding peer-review request, and the WP:VG banner was added to the page yesterday. So the bot is working fine. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:17, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Yep, the page got listed because of the new banner. The PR [12] is ridiculously old, but it's technically still open. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 16:35, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Headbomb and Hellknowz:, thanks for replying quickly. I didn't think of checking the history, sorry about that. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 06:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Computing alerts stopped

  Not a bug

Filled by: Djm-leighpark (talk · contribs)

Time filed: 07:19, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Article alerts

Comments: Computing alerts page doesn't seem updated recently, Last bot run around 08:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC). Thanks. Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:19, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Seems like it crashed. I ran it just now. Hopefully, it will continue tomorrow.

• Thanks.Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

• Computing alerts page doesn't seem updated recently for a couple of days, likely its crashed again ... thanks.Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:41, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Yeah, it crashed again. :( —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 12:11, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• suspect it has crashed again. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:28, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Yep, it crashed for whatever reason. I'll have to re-run it tomorrow manually. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 22:12, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
• suspect it has crashed again .. probably .... or it may be simply slightly late/delayed. Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Yeah, it crashed. Ran it now. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:40, 26 November 2018 (UTC)