Wikipedia talk:Edit filter

Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Current nominated for deletion

People might be interested in Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Current. Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Ok. I edited an talk page and it did an edit filter saying an user was disrupted. Any meaning? Or an mistake? 126.79.150.248 (talk) 01:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

14 July Community Call

Edit Check protoype (mobile)

Hi y'all – as people interested in using software to help moderate edits, the Editing Team thought some of you might be interested in participating the virtual meeting we're hosting this Friday, 14 July (15:30 to 17:00 UTC).

We'll use this time to discuss Edit Check, a new project that will present people with guidance while they're editing.

The first "check" we're building automatically prompts people to add a reference when they don't think to do so themselves.

Regardless of whether you're able to make the meeting, we would value learning what you all think of the Edit Check prototype.

If the above brings any questions to mind, please ping me so that I can try to answer them.

In the meantime, this MediaWiki page should contain all the information you need to join Friday's conversation. PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 22:12, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Third party edit filter manager requests

I think 3rd party requests for EFM should be disallowed. We already have elemnts of RfA lite with the process and having nominators would just make that more true. I don't know that this would be helpful to anyone. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

I do agree with making this not RfA like, but at the same time "does an existing EFM I already trust endorse this user" is an easy way of knowing I can support this user. Galobtter (talk) 01:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Isn't that what the waiting period is for? Barkeep49 (talk) 01:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure, an EFM can also just endorse in the comments, rather than writing a nominating statement. Galobtter (talk) 03:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

It's interesting that substantially different community-consensus processes for granting rights seem to converge in ways. I say "substantially different" because the process here invites a different community that participates compared to RfA. Even on EFN, third party nominators seem to make requests go a lot more smoothly. An EFH request also had a third party nominator, and it led to consensus being greater in volume and clearer.

I suspect it's because EFH/EFM are primarily about trust (and some competence for EFM, not really needed for EFH), and third party nominators serve as a good metric for trust. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge filter 874 and filter 1196 into filter 102

Moved to the correct noticeboard page

Sorry... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Suggested project page wording change to aid general understanding

Hi all. Even though this would not be a policy edit, I am making a suggestion here first rather than directly editing as I'm not part of the project, mainly just a tag filter user. I propose a change to the lead section, to read as follows:

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The edit filter tool, also known as the abuse filter, is a Wikipedia extension mainly used for detecting common patterns of harmful editing, and addressing potentially-harmful edits at the moment of (attempted) submission. The tool automatically checks each new submission against a list of filters.

If a match occurs, the tool will log the action in the public edit filter log, and may additionally take any of the following actions:

• tag the edit summary
• warn the author
• revoke the author's autoconfirmed status
• prevent the edit entirely (in this case, the attempted edit will only remain visible to other users via the log)

Because even the smallest mistake in editing a filter can significantly disrupt the encyclopedia, only editors in the edit filter manager permission group can configure filters. These permissions are rarely awarded, and users must first show very good judgement and technical proficiency. Currently, there are 140 edit filter managers and 23 edit filter helpers. The filters currently in use can be found at Special:AbuseFilter.

Note: This page does not discuss technical details relating to the operation of the extension. These can be found at Extension:AbuseFilter.

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Reason: This wording and order is more focused on what most (i.e. non-managing) users see when we investigate potentially-rogue contributors, and helps us understand the operation of the tool better and more quickly, without detracting for managers. It also disambiguates the tool itself from the individual filters (both are currently called "filter"); keeps related information together; is more concise; and makes it clearer that we can see prevented edits via the log.

Me first discovering the latter today - in the process, discovering an obvious sockpuppet - was what motivated me to finally put some more effort into understanding the edit filter, and to suggest a change that hopefully helps others do the same.

Let me know of any objections or suggestions. Turtlecrown (talk) 19:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)