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Promoted—Imzadi 1979 → 15:26, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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California State Route 282 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) review

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
Nominator's comments: This is an article about a 0.691 mile road, but there is a lot of information available on it. I don't know if this can go to FAC, but I figure that since it's longer than some of our current A-class articles, this can get a final review here too.
Nominated by: Rschen7754 05:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First comment occurred: 06:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Comments. This looks pretty substantial for a 0.691 mile road. Let's see what we can find here.
    • Lead looks pretty short. I know it's a challenge writing a lead for such a short road, since you want to leave some new information for the article body. But I'm accustomed to seeing multiple paragraphs here, at least one for each section. Split the history part of the lead into its own paragraph, and then find a way to expand the first paragraph with r/d information.
    • SR 282 begins at Alameda Boulevard as a one-way couplet, where McCain Boulevard continues west from the Fourth Street intersection from Alameda Boulevard into Naval Air Station North Island. The way this sentence is structured makes it hard to follow; my eyes sorta glazed over halfway through and I lost track of what boulevard was going where. At the very least, needs some sort of punctuation to make the meaning clearer. Better yet, split it into two simpler sentences.
    • Third and Fourth Streets continue through the intersections of J Avenue, I Avenue, Palm Avenue, H Avenue, G Avenue, F Avenue, E Avenue, and D Avenue, passing by homes along the way. I'm not gonna lie, this just screams filler. Are all of these avenues really important enough to mention? If so, consider collapsing the list into saying Palm Avenue and Avenues D through J. Or ..continue through several intersections, including [insert most important intersections here]. I have never really cared for the phrase passing by homes, homes is pretentious and houses (the physical buildings) is what you really mean, but better yet, just say it passes through a residential area. Instead of the intersections of, perhaps intersections with would be a cleaner phrasing.
    • The first paragraph of History is interesting but doesn't express how any of this is connected to SR 282 very well. Try to find a way to make it less tangenty.
      • Third and Fourth Streets are what the route is on. --Rschen7754 06:43, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • SR 282 was initially designated in 1967 from SR 75 to the Naval Air Station entirely along Fourth Street, instead, try SR 282 was initially designated in 1967 along Fourth Street from SR 75 to the Naval Air Station.
    • [...]it was not to be official until the San Diego–Coronado Bridge was completed. How can a designation be unofficial? Do you mean that it simply didn't take effect until that date?
    • You might want to do some compare/contrast to the initial designation of the highway compared to its present-day routing. If it's the same, mention it. If it's not, what's different?
    This is most of the way there, just needs some polishing, as listed above, to shine. I'm sure I'll be back in a few days to support. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • All done. --Rschen7754 07:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Someone wants their article recognition points for round one of the Cup. Nice work, I'll support. Though, if you have time, the map should be redone; it lacks context. Include an inset showing where in CA this map is located, or label cities. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:49, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dough4872 edit

I will review this article. Dough4872 15:53, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  1. "It is a spur from SR 75 and connects traffic between the city of Coronado and Naval Air Station North Island.", "connects traffic" does not sound right.
  2. I would split the sentence "In September, the City of Coronado added Third Street as a truck route going westbound to the base, in addition to the already-existing Fourth Street truck route leaving the base; by this time, SR 282 had shifted to become a one-way couplet of Third and Fourth streets" at the semicolon.
  3. I would suggest adding shields and labels to the map.

Overall, decent article. Dough4872 22:30, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All done. --Rschen7754 23:13, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will now support the article. Dough4872 23:54, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by TCN7JM edit

This is a pretty short article, I think I can handle it. –TCN7JM 16:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • The road is part of a link connecting to the metropolitan area of San Diego via SR 75 and the Coronado Bay Bridge. From where?
    • From Coronado, as mentioned in the last sentence. --Rschen7754 03:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Attempts to build first a highway and later, a tunnel, to allow base traffic to bypass the Coronado city streets were rejected by voters in 1974 and 2010, respectively. The first comma doesn't really make any sense where it's at. Honestly, I'd put it in front of and later.
  • continues west from the Fourth Street intersection from Alameda Boulevard – Maybe change the second usage of "from" to "with"? I got a little confused.
  • The intersection of Third Street and Orange Avenue dates back from at least 1890. I'd change "from" to "to" unless you're implying that 1890 is the latest date.
  • Second paragraph of the history uses "however" in two straight sentences. Doesn't read very well.
  • Postmile references are out of numerical order.

That's gonna be it! –TCN7JM 23:50, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, then. You've earned my support. –TCN7JM 04:04, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Image check by TCN7JM edit

I am also doing an image check. –TCN7JM 03:03, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images are fine! –TCN7JM 03:09, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Fredddie edit

Just a few things.

  1. Since the route is a one-way couplet, the KML looks weird because it splits the two. Maybe show each direction?
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:22, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Maybe mention it's entirely within the Coronado city limits in the first sentence?
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. It spurs off of SR 75" or "It is a spur route of SR 75".
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Connects NAS North Island to the state highway system would be more correct, no?
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5. "Attempts to build first a highway and later, a tunnel, to allow base traffic to bypass the Coronado city streets, were rejected by voters in 1974 and 2010, respectively."
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Is Alameda Blvd considered part of SR 282? If so, the KML should reflect that, too. If not, that AADT figure can be pulled.
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:22, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  7. "Coronado began to pave much of its street system in the early 1910s." The City of Coronado workers? Workers? The city itself can't do anything :P
    Done. --Rschen7754 04:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, not bad! –Fredddie™ 00:20, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. I support. –Fredddie™ 04:25, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck by SounderBruce edit

  • Ref 8: "Will Grade and Pave Coronado Streets" (The San Diego Union and Daily Bee) - I'd like to see where the article/city guide/profile mentions the intersection of Third Street and Orange Avenue
    •   Confirmed
  • Ref 9: "Coronado Trustees Plan Opening of Bay Boulevard" (The San Diego Union and Daily Bee) - Using "decomposed granite and oil" as a surface sounds interesting
    •   Confirmed
  • Ref 12: "Bay Span Route Added To State Highway Net" (The San Diego Union/Copley News Service)
    •   Confirmed
  • Ref 15: "Council Shifts North Island Truck Route" (The San Diego Union)
    •   Confirmed
  • Ref 16: "Coronado's Traffic An Issue" (The San Diego Union)
    •   Confirmed: "At the shoreline, a number of things could happen under the concept. The highway could empty into First Street, which would carry traffic into North Island's First Street gate."
  • Ref 20: "Heading for the gate: Navy base's new entry expected to ease traffic flow, improve security" (The San Diego Union-Tribune)
    •   Confirmed: "The traffic pattern heading into North Island Naval Air Station, one of the county's largest employers, is set to change tomorrow when a new main gate opens off Third Street."

Looks good. Support SounderBruce 02:37, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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