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07:21, 22 June 2024 review of submission by Belleandpoppy

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When will my wikipage be reviewed? Its been a while since i submitted it. Belleandpoppy (talk) 07:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant criteria are WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NACADEMIC you need to establish how she passes one of them and "she lives in the beautiful beach side village of Bundeena" is hardly neutral tone. Theroadislong (talk) 07:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Belleandpoppy, you'll notice that at the top of your draft there's a notice reading in part "This may take 4 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,321 pending submissions waiting for review." Often drafts that are an easy "accept" or "decline" get reviewed quickly, because it doesn't take long to look through them. So your best bet for shortening the wait time is to make it an easy review.
Having a look at your draft, I would strongly suggest you spend some of the waiting time looking for some better sources. You can keep editing it while it waits for review, and the reviewer will just look at what's on the draft when they first see it. Remember that you need sources that have significant coverage of the subject, in reliable sources, that are independent of the subject in order to establish that O'Brien is notable by Wikipedia standards. With that in mind, looking over your current references, here is how they measure up in terms of proving notability:
-anything hosted by an institution she is affiliated with cannot be used; it's not independent (refs 1, 2)
-anything written by O'Brien cannot be used; it's not independent (refs 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15)
-interviews cannot be used for notability, only to establish basic uncontroversial facts about her (for example her birthday, partner's name, etc) (ref 5)
-references must contain significant coverage of the subject, as in the article/book/etc must be about her and not a petition (ref 5)
-articles citing work she has written, but not speaking about her as a person, cannot be used (ref 9)
Ref 10 might be usable, but it's behind a paywall so I can't review it. Hopefully you can compare it with the others and get an idea of whether it will be a solid reference.
In summary, you might have one reference that can be used; you need at least three that meet the golden rule to have any chance of proving notability. As an Aussie myself, I am always thrilled when people want to add articles about fellow Aussies, so please do not take this as an effort to dissuade you. I want you to have the opportunity to find the kind of sources Wikipedia needs so that this article can be published. If you find more sources and aren't sure whether they're reliable, you're welcome to comment on my talk page and we'll have a look together. Good luck with your search and happy editing! StartGrammarTime (talk) 05:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:24, 22 June 2024 review of submission by 86.169.132.52

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I'm hoping you can help me with this article on chemsit Harry Lister Riley. The person here I have tried to add a biographical page for here, linking to your existing article on the chemical process "Riley Oxidation" named after him died in the 1980s before the days of wide use of the internet and consequently there is not much of a digital footprint for him. The details I have found come in part from an entry in a 1972 edition of Who's Who, and earlier local Yorkshire newspaper cuttings I've got hard copies of from the 1940s and 50s. Is there any way to reference these? 86.169.132.52 (talk) 10:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sources do not need to be online. Please see referencing for beginners. 331dot (talk) 11:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that we need a minimum amount of information for offline cites, and we use specific templates for citing them:
  • Periodicals use {{cite news}} or {{cite magazine}} and require the publication name, edition (e.g. 1 Jan 1924), article name, article byline, and the pages the article is on.
  • Books use {{cite book}} and require the title, author, publisher, year of publication, page(s) being cited, and either the ISBN or the OCLC#.
—Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:43, 22 June 2024 review of submission by NDLaity89

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how to find a version of wikipedia in french ? NDLaity89 (talk) 14:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NDLaity89 go to https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal 331dot (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:55, 22 June 2024 review of submission by Rainbobrain

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Hi, I was wondering why my submission was denied. The company I own and run is the source for the information. The company is explicitly dedicated to the study of this phenomenon. Rainbobrain (talk) 16:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rainbobrain: this draft was declined for the reason given in the decline notice, namely that it is not referenced. You may well be an expert in this subject matter, but even then, we don't want to hear what you know about it, but rather what reliable published sources have said. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rainbobrain: I would also not edit in this topic as a new editor. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rainbobrain what do you mean by "The company I own and run is the source for the information."?
That statement clearly confirms WP:COI which you haven't yet declared. Please go through WP:COI and WP:UPE. Twinkle1990 (talk) 18:05, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 21:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:21, 22 June 2024 review of submission by 118.179.205.98

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He is an important Bangladeshi journalist, lyricist, dramatist and actor about whom this article is written. People constantly want to know information about Shamim Hossen. So I want Wikipedia to have an article about this person. I want your advice in this regard. thank you 

118.179.205.98 (talk) 17:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't assess almost all of your sources (language barrier). I will, however, note that anything he writes, says, films, commissions, semaphores, interpretive-dances, etc. is useless for notability (connexion to subject). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:33, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I have moved on the draft for a quick check. But what I have found is the subject is not even borderline notable. You have just done WP:REFBOMB on the draft with same ref in multiple claims that failed verified claims. Kindly go through WP:NMUSIC and WP:REFB. I am well aware about Bangladeshi media. Most of them use to publish with payment. Should I provide evidence? For your check here is one [1] and check for the paid article section. Twinkle1990 (talk) 17:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:34, 22 June 2024 review of submission by Kharavela Deva

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To perfect the references area by using variable and reliable sources. Kharavela Deva (talk) 18:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Draft:Anuvadi Svara StartGrammarTime (talk) 05:13, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:37, 22 June 2024 review of submission by Uglykidboe

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Hi I am new to Wikipedia, and started to edit recently. I was asked to replace my references with independent reliable references in my draft. I believe I did that, can you please verify my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Llblgen_Pro Appreciate the help Thanks Uglykidboe (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Uglykidboe: if you believe you have sufficiently addressed the reasons for the decline, then please resubmit your draft, that way you will get another review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:47, 22 June 2024 review of submission by Faisalpkavil

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Kindly inform what I need to do to accept this submission. Faisalpkavil (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Left 'm my standard deletion notice. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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