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06:30:19, 13 February 2022 review of submission by DesiWriter1080

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As I can see there's so many reliable sources related to subject.

https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/directors-ayushi-anand-vishal-yoman-brings-the-real-side-of-mirzapur-via-mirzapur-official-2007470/

https://www.filmibeat.com/bollywood/2022/mirzapur-official-founders-vishal-yoman-and-ayushi-anand-say-always-stay-true-to-your-roots-328539.html

https://www.oneindia.com/partner-content/mirzapur-official-initiates-love-mirzapur-a-tribute-by-vishal-yoman-ayushi-anand-3360057.html

https://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/wow-find-out-the-insights-of-mirzapur-city-mirzapur-official-vishal-yoman-and-ayushi

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/outlook-spotlight-vishal-yoman-ayushi-anand-founder-of-mirzapur-official-a-platform-for-unheard-voices/409576

DesiWriter1080 (talk) 06:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In order:
  1. We can't use the Bollywood Life source (unknown provenance). Role byline; who actually wrote this?
  2. " " " " Filmibeat " (" "). " "; " " " "?
  3. OneIndia is useless for notability (Connexion to subject). Story is labeled as partner content.
  4. The TellyChakkar source has been discussed and dismissed, as it's a repub of Bollywood Life.
  5. We can't use the Outlook India source (unknown provenance). Role byline; who actually wrote this?
None of the sources proffered above are usable at all. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 06:38, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

11:44:45, 13 February 2022 review of submission by Twentysumn

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can I please get some insights on how the references are not notable? Twentysumn (talk) 11:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Listings, profiles and IMDb are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 11:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:57:11, 13 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Desertambition

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Hello, I am trying to understand what constitutes appropriate notability for article creation. Some recent directors of Doctor Who episodes do not have articles created (Annetta Laufer, Haolu Wang) and I was under the impression that directing a show as big as Doctor Who is notable by itself. I made sure to add some other details that I could find. Jamie Magnus Stone has an article and his credentials and sources seem to be on par with if not worse than the ones I provided for Annetta Laufer. How could I improve my article so that it is appropriate for creation? If none are notable, would it be appropriate to nominate Jamie Magnus Stone for deletion?

Desertambition (talk) 14:57, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Desertambition: while the subject may be notable, right now the article needs more reliable, secondary sources. Currently a few of the references are interviews, which are considered primary sources and should be used sparingly. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 15:21, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Wgullyn: Thank you for the feedback! I'm not sure if there are any better sources. If the work is significantly notable, is there an argument for creating the page with a tag saying "more reliable sources needed"? It looks like most Doctor Who directors have pages with directing Doctor Who being their most notable work. I feel like it would be ok to not have perfect sources in this instance. Annetta Laufer and Haolu Wang also appear to be the first women of color to direct episodes of Doctor Who. Desertambition (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Desertambition: I'm not sure if they pass WP:NDIRECTOR right now. If they had directed a significant number of episodes, then they would probably be notable, but only directing a single episode probably isn't enough to qualify for an article. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 15:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Desertambition: (ec) To pass this process, you need at least three independent reliable sources with significant coverage. If you wish to create the article in main space, you are free to do so, but it cannot be guaranteed that it will be allowed to remain there. As the person could be notable, any main space article you create about this would likely get moved back to Draft(or even deleted since you have a draft). 331dot (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Wgullyn: @331dot: I understand this a lot better now, thank you. I'm not sure what the best move is. Annetta Laufer has been involved in other films as well (Blue Story) but I'm not sure it passes WP:NDIRECTOR. She was recognized at the American Black Film Festival, which has a wiki article. It seems like both directors are on the edge of having an article. What should I do in your opinion? Desertambition (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Desertambition: I don't think she passes NDIRECTOR. If there were several independent reliable sources with significant coverage that discussed her and the significance of her career, she would pass the broader notable person definition, but that doesn't seem to be there right now. I would just keep an eye out for more sources and keep the draft handy(drafts are only deleted if not edited for six months). 331dot (talk) 16:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot: Ok, I'll just do that. Thank you :) Desertambition (talk) 16:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

18:15:08, 13 February 2022 review of draft by 62.122.119.223

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Per Wikipedia Notability (Academics) guideline, any individual who meets one of the following criteria (#1-8) meets notability requirement. This professor holds a named chair position at Harvard University. Guideline #5 "The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon." Link is provided here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)

62.122.119.223 (talk) 18:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The draftDraft:Timothy Colton does not mention this? We are not clairvoyant. Theroadislong (talk) 18:46, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia Notability (Academics) guideline, any individual who meets one of the following criteria (#1-8) meets notability requirement. This professor holds a named chair position at Harvard University. Guideline #5 "The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon." Link is provided here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)

Request on 19:58:59, 13 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 223.190.91.172

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Hi team,

the article submitted is not an advertisement or promotional blog. Tuikart was one of the first Edtech companies which is offering Pay Per session (Class) Just like ola concept in tuition/coaching so that people can get maximum with little spend. Also it helps people from poor section to afford tuition for their kids.

Hence, we wanted that if anyone wanted to know more about the company then they can also refer to Wikipedia. here we would be adding more about Tuikart Private Limited.

hence, Please approve.


223.190.91.172 (talk) 19:58, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has no interest in helping potential customers learn about your company or its services. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves. We are only interested in what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. The vast majority of companies do not merit articles. 331dot (talk) 20:38, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 23:24:05, 13 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 3cordguy

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Hello! I’m trying to understand why my draft is not being accepted after adding more secondary and independent sources as requested. Are there any details that pertain to what exactly I’m missing here.

Thanks for any help.

3cordguy (talk) 23:24, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 3cordguy. Examining half of the sources at random, they are not independent, reliable sources that contain significant coverage of him. His podcast's website is not independent of him. Neither is anything he has written, such as the article for The Christian Post, the EFCA blog post, or the author bio on Theology Mix. As far as the American Bible Society blog and MuskOx, almost all websites except those published by traditional publishers (such as news media) are self-published, and therefore not reliable. Furthermore, the former contains a single sentence about Whitman (not in depth and detailed coverage), and the second is an interview, Whitman talking about Whitman, so lacks independence. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:29, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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