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15:05:47, 28 October 2021 review of submission by Gogohawhay

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Hello,

I need help getting this page published. I don't quite understand what is missing or needs to be updated. Gogohawhay (talk) 15:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gogohawhay. Please see Help:Your first article. Wikipedia may not be used for any type of publicity, promotion, or public relations. The topic of User:Gogohawhay/sandbox almost certainly isn't notable (suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia). The draft definitely doesn't demonstrate that she's notable, since it cites no sources. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:13, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

20:39:22, 28 October 2021 review of draft by Iamjimbacha

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Trying to get Elliott approved, I don't have many references as in online articles. I have a ton of hard copy stats, prize money papers, SAG papers, magazine/newspaper clippings from my client.

Per your requirements: Motorsport figures are presumed notable if they 1. Have driven in a race in a fully professional series. A fully professional series is one where prize money is not trivial compared to the cost of the series. For example, the SCCA Trans-Am Series is considered professional while the SCCA Spec Miata National Championship isn't. 2. Predate the sharp distinction between professional and amateur (prior to World War II). 3. Competed in a series or race of worldwide or national interest (for example, the American Championship or 24 Hours of Le Mans). 4. Have owned or been team principal for a team in a major racing series (NASCAR Cup, Formula One, IndyCar, WRC, A1GP, CART, or IMSA) for a full season or more. This includes Cup Series crew chiefs. 5. Have been enshrined in any notable motorsports hall of fame. 6. Founded, owned, or managed any notable professional racing series. 7. Designers or engineers who have been covered extensively by the media or motorsports historians. 8. Hold or have held a significant motorsports record, such as a land speed record.

1) Elliott raced in the IMSA sanctioned American Le Mans Series / Panoz GTS - Yes prize money was awarded. Elliott also raced in the WORLD FAMOUS SCORE Baja 1000 as the driver / also prize money was awarded. Elliott raced in the SCCA Pro Lamborghini Super Tropheo Series as well. * Note NASA Pro Racing ( there web site is www.nasaproracing.com ) is considered by many as a PRO / AM series .. meaning both professional licensed and amateurs can race. Elliott has been professional status since 2004 and licensed during all those starts...many other drivers have NASA pro racing listed on Wikipedia as pro accomplishments - ie. Alec Udell for reference. 2) Elliott has had a professional auto racing credentials as required to race in both above sanctioning bodies - 3) Baja 1000 was on the Wide World of Sports ABC - Elliott was driver in that race 2004 6) Elliott owned and managed Fisher Racing LTD, who with National Sponsors won a championship in 2003 / Also Ford sponsored his team and receive pay for such accomplishments. Also, finished 2nd and 3rd in National Competition under same Team Ownership (Fisher Racing LTD) NASA PRO RACING. 8) Two lap records / One at Mid Ohio and one at Road America in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin

Trying to get this approved, any help would be greatly appreciate. Looks like my references are the only thing holding this back.



Iamjimbacha (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Iamjimbacha: Indeed they are. Of the three sources you have, only one is usable (We can't use IMDb or his own website) and that brings us to the OTHER requirement you're obligated to meet. We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim that could potentially be challenged for any reason what-so-ever MUST be cited to a in-depth third-party source that corroborates it or (if no source can be found for that claim) removed. This is a hard requirement when writing about living or recently-departed people on Wikipedia and is NOT negotiable. Note that we don't require sources for credited film/TV roles (only for those where he went uncredited or under an alias), but we require sources for literally everything else on that draft. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 01:54, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

21:25:18, 28 October 2021 review of submission by XEON013

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Sir why my page not published?? (talk) 21:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@XEON013: We have zero tolerance for spam or promotionalism, and articles which are unambiguously and irreparably promotional are deleted on discovery even if they are drafts. Users who appear to be on Wikipedia for the sole purpose of promotion are also routinely blocked as having a purpose at loggerheads with Wikipedia's own. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 23:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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