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Request for Review

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Dear Reviewer,

I would like to bring to your notice that the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed was deleted using deletion review was because due to a spelling mistake in the article name the reviewers were not able to access any of the sources. When you check with the right name Adeeb Ahamed there are plenty of independent sources available to support notability. I humbly request you to reconsider. Thank you (Kuruvillac (talk) 05:12, 21 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

@Kuruvillac: Doesn't look like, does it? I haven't looked into sourcing right now, but it doesn't appear that you changed anything since the last rejection. May I ask you to list the sources that you regard as reliable here, preferably without spelling mistakes in the url?. Keep WP:NPERSON in mind. @Robert McClenon: for your notice. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi (talk),

Thank you for responding. Thats what happened during deletion review, the article was created using a name with a spelling mistake, so during review the sources were not showing, hence it was deleted. For the correct name Adeeb Ahamed, we have the following sources

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/lists/408686-indian-rich-list-2018-14-adeeb-ahamed https://gulfnews.com/business/remittances-go-digital-1.1597425005076 https://www.arabianbusiness.com/banking-finance/443348-abu-dhabi-stimulus-package-to-mitigate-panic-says-lulu-financial-boss https://www.arabianbusiness.com/business/425981-investing-in-the-future-adeeb-ahamed-managing-director-of-lulu-financial-group https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/297987 https://www.arabianbusiness.com/retail/421501-turning-tablez https://www.weforum.org/people/adeeb-ahamed

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/retail/turning-tables-how-adeeb-ahamed-of-the-lulu-group-is-foraying-further-with-food-toys-and-fashion/articleshow/60136087.cms https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2020/may/06/uae-bizman-adeeb-ahamed-appointed-trustee-of-kochi-biennale-foundation-2139583.html https://www.arabianbusiness.com/business/425981-investing-in-the-future-adeeb-ahamed-managing-director-of-lulu-financial-group https://www.gulftoday.ae/business/2020/02/02/budget-evokes-mixed-response-from-nri-community https://www.fortuneindia.com/bengaluru-buzz/lulu-group-bets-on-india-despite-slowdown-woes/103560 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/lulu-group-to-build-a-hotel-in-amsterdam/articleshow/73187415.cms

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/corporate/lulu-opens-great-scotland-yard-in-london https://www.gulf-times.com/story/650023/LuLu-s-Twenty14-Holdings-completes-300mn-UK-invest https://www.gulf-times.com/story/635428/Adeeb-Ahamed-honoured-as-NRI-Businessman-of-the-Ye https://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/lulu-group-arm-plans-to-open-20-toy-stores-in-india/article27004961.ece https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/lulu-group-to-build-a-hotel-in-amsterdam/articleshow/73187415.cms https://gulfnews.com/business/banking/expats-switch-to-lulu-money-for-a-superior-money-transfer-experience-1.1590057170340

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/retail/420531-lulu-groups-tablez-plans-75m-investment-in-india https://gulfnews.com/business/lulu-international-exchange-valuing-your-trust-across-nations-1.1566820470943 https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/retail/lulu-groups-retail-arm-tablez-launches-chinese-lifestyle-brand-yoyoso-in-india/articleshow/70994496.cms

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/hotels-/-restaurants/lulu-unit-plans-to-invest-rs-1000-cr-in-india/articleshow/67877403.cms https://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/banking-finance/12-major-companies-to-accept-indias-rupay-card-in-uae https://www.thenational.ae/business/markets/lulu-exchange-acquires-al-falah-exchange-1.614213 Thank You (Kuruvillac (talk) 12:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

User:Kuruvillac - This is a URL Dump, and is ugly and difficult to read. I will take another look within 24 hours, but I will not try to parse the URL Dump. Providing a URL Dump wastes your time and that of the reviewers. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:36, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert McClenon ,

Thank you for reconsideration. I made a spelling mistake in the initial article and hence it caused the article to be deleted in deletion review.

Sorry for providing too many references. I am not an experienced editor. Hope you will forgive my ignorance. Thank again for your time. (Kuruvillac (talk) 16:09, 21 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

User:Kuruvillac - You say that the article was deleted in deletion review because you made a spelling mistake. Do you mean an error in spelling the subject's name using the Latin alphabet? If so, we are aware that his name is written in English either as Adeeb Ahmed or Adeeb Ahamed. I don't think that will change the result. Also, you say that the article was deleted in deletion review. You probably mean that it was deleted in a deletion discussion. That is not the same as a Deletion Review. I see no indication that there was a deletion review. You might consider requesting a deletion review, which is a different proceeding, but only if you can provide a stronger argument than you have provided here.

Robert McClenon (talk) 23:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert McClenon ,

The two cases I would like to bring to your attention are

1. The current draft of Adeeb Ahamed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed is vastly different from the earlier deleted article in article for deletion process.

2. Secondly article for deletion discussion was faulty due to a mistake I made. I created the earlier article in the name Adeeb Ahmed where as his actual name is Adeeb Ahamed. Since the name Adeeb Ahmed does not throw up an sources it was deleted during deletion discussion. If the correct name was used instead it would have give numerous independent sources to establish notability as Mr Adeeb Ahamed is among the top 5 industrialists in India and humbly suggest that notability should never have been in question. Thank you for responding and reconsidering. (Kuruvillac (talk) 08:24, 22 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

07:01:18, 21 August 2020 review of submission by FARNSWORTH9999

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Good morning. I tried to submit a page that I was editing on my sandbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FARNSWORTH9999/sandbox) about the actress Betty Foxx but it was declined due to reliable sources. I have serched in other pages about other actors or actress and I think they have the same amount of information. I have linked interview, a link to the piece of new when she was nominated, her link on databases. I would like to know what can I do in to get published the page. Than you in advance

FARNSWORTH9999 (talk) 07:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FARNSWORTH9999: this needs reliable sources that are independent of the subject (i.e. no intervies or press releases) and have some coverage of the subject (not yust passing mentions). Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:01:14, 21 August 2020 review of submission by Davidbonbright

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I took out any references that touched on my neutrality as an author. There is lots of reliable independent reference in the piece so it should stand now. Davidbonbright (talk) 14:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DavidbonbrightThere are actually zero reliable sources in the draft. Where do you think they are? Theroadislong (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:37:24, 21 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Venkatasaikatepalli

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NOT DONE
not done, Wikipedia doesn't help you to advertise your website. Where is your WP:COI disclosure btw? Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This is my own source. Please help me to add this article. I will make time to time changes.

Venkatasaikatepalli (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Not done Wikipedia doesn't want to help you advertise your website. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

15:54:10, 21 August 2020 review of submission by Pupuce2020

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I have reputable music news sourcing documenting the bands latest album. Please take another look. Pupuce2020 (talk) 15:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC) Pupuce2020 (talk) 15:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook and blogs are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:01:26, 21 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by 68.102.42.216

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The 2020-21 NBA Transactions page needs to be a article now Because the 2019–20 NBA regular season has ended Last friday. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

68.102.42.216 (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

16:48:00, 21 August 2020 review of submission by DJ888kmg

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Hi, I think the submission references do show qualification for a Wikipedia Article. They show significant coverage in independent and reliable source and are independent of the subject (Phonographic Performance Limited is a separate entity and whilst VLP is mention on their website, it is not a VPL website. Now cited, House of Lords, Companies House, Bloomberg, Academic article...Certainly think this is worthy of a Page. DJ888kmg (talk) 16:48, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not seeing any in-depth coverage in independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:48:35, 21 August 2020 review of submission by TheNobleBug

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I am attempting to create Draft:Charlotte_Football_Club to redirect to Charlotte_FC; however, even with a source from Charlotte FC's official website, it was declined. I have now added a second source from MLS's website. TheNobleBug (talk) 17:48, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheNobleBug it was declined because AFC is not concerned with redirects. Please just go ahead and create it, redirects are not subject to review at AFC. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will move it to mainspace for you, and remove the unnecessary references. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Dodger67, is there a better way to make redirects without submitting AfCs? TheNobleBug (talk) 19:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TheNobleBug simply create it directly in mainspace. A redirect is such a simple page that it's not worth the bother to create as a draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TheNobleBug just so you're aware, there is an AfC process for redirects at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories. But once your account is autoconfirmed - which happens after 4 days and 10 edits - you can create redirects directly. Spicy (talk) 12:55, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

19:26:53, 21 August 2020 review of submission by Fernandesrohit

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Made changes to the page to not seem like advertisement, though that's what it came across as. Fernandesrohit (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Still reads like blatant advertising with no independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21:00:59, 21 August 2020 review of draft by Ireneangelico

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Hi Wikipedia,

As you suggested, I have deleted the IMDb references and replaced them all with newspaper and journal references instead.

My article Irene Lilienheim Angelico was written by the academic, journalist, and film reviewer Maurie Alioff. He knows us because he has reviewed a couple of our films over the years. He also did the article about Abbey Jack Neidik. When he was finished , he asked me to provide a lot of the references, because many are old and I have copies in our physical archives and on our website. i did this and submitted the articles. I realize after reading your guideline more carefully, that this was a mistake and I should have sent it back to Maurie Alioff to contribute himself. Can I still do that now?

Thanks and be well,

Irene Lilinheim Angelico ```` Ireneangelico (talk) 21:00, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It reads exactly like an autobiography full of hagiography “ prestigious”, “winner of numerous international award”, “ international critical acclaim and many awards”, “highly regarded film”, “write award-winning series”, “endorsed by Nobel Peace Prize Laureates”, “created uniquely for” etc. Theroadislong (talk) 09:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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