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February 16

Accepted Articles

I am reviewing manually, and a couple days ago, accpeted Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ian Ker. It's still filed under pending review, but is also a page in the Article namespace. What should I do with the afc version now that it's on the actual Wikipedia? LM103 (talk) 00:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

You should have moved the page instead of copying and pasting the contents into a new page. For example, that would have credited the original author with page creation instead of you. I've tagged the article for speedy deletion and will properly move the draft once the article is out of the way. Huon (talk) 00:57, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Austin Ooten

Austin ooten is not on youtube. Austin is also not on google images. I can't find him on the internet!!!!! Will someone answer?!?! I CANNOT FIND HIM ON THE INTERNET!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.100.84.238 (talk) 00:43, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Quite shocking, but I'm not sure what you expect Wikipedia to do about Ooten's virtual absence. If he's not notable, he should not have a Wikipedia article either. Huon (talk) 02:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Stphughes/Town Diary

Hello Wikipedia Editors,

How do I attach the graphic/picture "Town Diary Movie Poster" i have uploaded to the "Commons" area to the submitted narrative? When I go to connect and attach a picture to the narrative, the reply tells me that Wikipedia cannot find a document/page known as "Town Diary" or "stphughes/Town Diary"

Please advise.

Thanks,

Stephen Hughes/Jack Kenny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stphughes (talk • contribs) 18:14, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The image you uploaded is File:Town Diary Movie Poster.jpg; the picture tutorial explains how to add an image to the draft. However, there are a couple of issues. First of all, if you are Jack Kenny, as your signature suggests, you may own the copyright to the DVD cover; however, it might be a good idea to send an email confirming that you are indeed the copyright owner and are willing to release the image of the DVD cover under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License - an example release form is here, and it should be sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Secondly, if you are Jack Kenny, you may want to have a look at our guideline on conflicts of interest - writing about a topic you're closely associated with, such as your own film, is discouraged because it's difficult to maintain a neutral point of view. For example, the claim that the movie "touches on the deepest emotions a man has" sounds rather promotional to me. Thirdly, the draft currently does not cite any reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or reviews in reputable movie magazines. To be considered notable, the film must have received significant coverage in such sources (and IMDb, for example, is not considered significant). For this last reason I have declined the submission. Huon (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Karungu1/sandbox

This is my first article submission. Does the "bot" or a human operator insert the title line using the "H1" heading. It wasn't clear if I was supposed to do that?

Thanks, Morris (Karungu1) Karungu1 (talk) 18:38, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Actually, neither. When the submission is accepted, it will be moved to a new location in the main articlespace and the headline that currently reads "User:Karungu1/sandbox" will automatically become the new page title. There's no need to manually add a "H1" heading. The accepting reviewer will take care of all that.

Currently the draft's content is not sufficiently supported by reliable sources, though. It does have some footnotes, but they all deal with Camp O'Donnell, not with the later Naval Radio Station. All Wikipedia content must be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or maybe history textbooks. To be considered notable, a topic must have received significant coverage in such sources. Huon (talk) 22:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, ok, understand, but then can you tell me if the article is likely to be accepted or rejected? Actually, I would be happy, for the time being, if it could be placed on Wikipedia as a stub. I wrote the article in response to a reference made to this u.s. naval installation, on the stub article U.S. Naval Communication Station Philippines. The reference made therein was almost blank, and I wanted to fill it in. The only way that documentation for the article can be made, other than for Camp O'Donnell, is via official U.S. Navy records. My plan is to solicit those documents, but it will probably take quite awhile, as the Navy is famous for responding very slowly, if at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karungu1 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I almost declined the submission the last time but then thought that sources might be found. If no independent (ie non-Navy) sources exist, I'll decline it right away. Huon (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

L.A. Jay Article - References

Hi Huon,

Thank you again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/L.A._Jay&action=submit

I have switched out the references to wikipedia with discogs, last fm, and all music references. Would it be better to reference the actual records themselves though? My aim with the wikipedia article is to piece together the various pieces of information out there about the producer L.A. Jay (the records he produced and their significance). Can his work not be appreciated as notable due to the chart success and affiliation with Motown Records of the early music (Good Girls and MC Trouble), and the status of the Pharcyde work? The sources referencing Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde are to back up the notability of that album.

Is the article at least improved by taking out the wikipedia references?

Thanks again for your time.

Best, Alice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlicePS (talk • contribs) 22:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

As I mentioned before, we're looking for independent, reliable sources, and we must show that LA Jay has received significant coverage in such sources. The various Discogs, Last FM and Allmusic discographies do not constitute significant coverage; they mention Jay in passing or not at all. For example, the source for the statement that he "Produced/Co-Produced the entire album, including the hit debut single "Your Sweetness (Is My Weakness)” which peaked at #6 on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs charts" doesn'd actually say he produced that single. The Roy Ayers Project is among the few sources that actually discuss LA Jay's work in any detail (ie they devote a sentence to him and don't just mention his name in passing), but they're eager to point out that LA Jay is a supporter of the Project - that's not quite an independent source, and I don't think it's a news organization or subject to editorial oversight, so it probably isn't reliable either. If a reputable music magazine had written an article on Jay, discussing the significance of his work, that would be a good source. But I don't think we have anything even remotely of that quality. Notability is not inherited, and having worked with notable musicians does not automatically make LA Jay notable. The chart success might help - if we had a source actually attributing that success to LA Jay's efforts. Right now I don't think he's notable enough for an article of his own. Huon (talk) 01:39, 17 February 2013 (UTC)