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I am not sure I understand reviewer's comments on my submission, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Guetzloe Report. Says references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability. Articles from Orlando Sentinel note the host of this radio show is a unique political figure in Florida as a radio commentator and activist. Voice of Russia reference states he is a campaign correspondent for the Voice of Russia. News stories point out his jail term has been argued in Florida Supreme Court with attorneys citing U.S. Supreme Court ruling. Host of this radio show also has a bio on Wikipedia.Jerosaur (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See why notability is not inherited. While its host may be notable (and he is), the show does not inherit notability from him. The show should pass the general notability guideline by itself to be considered notable. A412 (TalkC) 02:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also in regards to Florida Taxpayers Union, the notability of the subject has to be verified by independent sources that provide coverage. As of now, most of the sources are not independent, and the ones that are, don't provide coverage, just mere mention. Dalisays (talk) 14:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

rejection edit

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Trauma_Plate

The page above has been rejected three times. The first was for a lack of references, which I corrected. The second rejection, stated that the page already exists, which it does not. The page "trauma plate" redirects to a page about ceramic plates, which are a type of trauma plate. I find this very incomplete and even miss-informative(p.s. the ceramic plate redirect. Although the last reviewer did provide the information to bring me here, I am a bit disappointed in my first exposure to the wikipedia submission process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtotin (talkcontribs) 05:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is difficult to know who is correct, because the Ceramic plate article is completely unsourced. And I can't see any sources in your version that refer to 'trauma plates' either. There is an ongoing discussion about the subject on the Talk page of the existing article; the argument is that 'Ceramic plate' is erroneously used to describe all types of inserts. If you can find evidence that 'Trauma plate' is the common (or correct) term, I would suggest you try and get the name of the existing article changed. Sionk (talk) 11:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As Sionk notes, at Talk page there is an ongoing discussion about this, and the consensus about the need for a new article or whether yours should be merged into the existing one should arise there, not here. In my opinion, it seems like your article should be merged, for whatever that's worth. Dalisays (talk) 12:48, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sionk, reference 4 from my page specifically references the generic commercial term, Trauma Plate. Dalisays, the points discussed in that discussion are addressed in my page, and that discussion is NOT "on going", as it hasn't been updated in 4 years.

As I tried to clarify in my article, presuming you have actually read it, body armor is made up of 3 standard components, the carrier, ballistic panels, and trauma plate(s). Ceramic plates are available as a type of trauma plates in "soft" armor, AND as ballistic panels military grade "hard" armor, like SAPI armor. If you are confused, try googling trauma plate and ceramic plate and see what you come up with. None of the people who proofed my page were confused about any of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtotin (talkcontribs) 01:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have followed advice of reviewer and added references to the article. I have tried to re-submit but nothing seems to happen. I have now seemed to have lost list of citations. Their numbers appear in the text but the list at bottom is gone (2ailalohce (talk) 10:58, 2 May 2012 (UTC))[reply]

I have fixed the reference display problem, you were missing a closing </ref> tag. I have also resubmitted it for review. For future reference, follow the re-submit instructions on the big pink template exactly. Once you have done that the new 'awaiting review' tag will appear at the bottom of the page (due to long and boring technical limitations of the Mediawiki software...). Pol430 talk to me 20:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question edit

I just read that if i want to upload an image to my article its should be from my own work,for copy right purpose, but how can i add an image for my article Khazar Islands from the references site because i don't have a picture related to it.

Thank YouMarkDafoe (talk) 12:26, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See the WP:Picture tutorial. If it is copyrighted, see the criteria for fair use on images first. A412 (TalkC) 22:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi... I need a little assistance from the Wiki HelpDesk.

I've gone ahead and created "Articles" for creation/WritersAnonymous.org, Grant Trenton Gardner & Seven At The Sevens) "Seven At The Sevens" a new book published (2012) that's on sale on Amazon.com. I am (Grant Trenton Gardner) the book's Head Editor and Head Writer. The book is a physical paperback that is currently for sale. I published it via WritersAnonymous.org & Press that I founded for which there is a website. In addition to the Writers Support Group WritersAnonymous.org and Press, I also helped to start the "WA Poetics of Space Award" that was awarded to many places that are considered wonderful spaces for writers and writers communities.

How can I present this information so it will pass all Wikipedia requirements? "Seven At The Sevens" the book published via WritersAnonymous.org and Press is beginning a National Book PR Campaign as we speak to more than 600 media outlets/contacts in tv & radio stations, newspapers, magazines, blogs and to colleges and universities.

Thank you in advance for any help/assistance that you can provide. I've already created the pages. But they'll waiting for approval. Some of the pages say that they need information cited. Thank you for your help.

Cheers,

Grant Trenton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grant Trenton (talkcontribs) 22:06, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which includes things that are important and 'notable'. Because organisations try and use the encyclopedia as free advertising space, the 'notability' criteria for organisations and companies is slightly stricter - see WP:NCORP. You need to provide strong evidence that the organization has been talked about in-depth in reliable sources that are independent of the subject e.g. (regional/national) newspapers, magazines or books. Because you have a potential conflict of interest you also need to make sure you write the article from a neutral perspective, or other editors will get, erm, tetchy! Sionk (talk) 22:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is this good enough article? 71.180.203.153 (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, for several reasons. First, there is only one source; editors typically expect multiple reliable sources. Second, he does not fulfill notability criteria. Lastly, the thing that might make him notable (playing for a professional team) is unsourced. A412 (TalkC) 22:50, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh o.k. 71.180.203.153 (talk) 02:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I add some references to the article if that's what you meant. 71.180.203.153 (talk) 22:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]