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The article was rejected because of lack of sources. Since then, I have tried to add all references (especially news outlet articles) to the page. I believe it is sufficient for the article to be accepted. If I request resubmission, will it get rejected again? Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbar64 (talkcontribs) 12:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many sources look like primary sources to me, for example the websites of organizations he founded. Mangaloremithr is a copy of the Deccan Herald's obituary and adds nothing whatsoever. The ministry website, http://poiministry.org, seems unavailable. You should use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source supports which of the draft's statements. For example, I don't think any of the sources mention Abraham's lack of contentment with his PhD or his views on the awards he received.
It would also help if you could provide more news sources predating Abraham's death. With the exception of a rather dubious Liberty University source it seems dying was his most notable achievement, which certainly isn't correct. Huon (talk) 13:41, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I understand that you are backlogged. I just wanted to put this here, so you know it exists. Thanks! AnonymousAnimus (talk) 13:59, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This one is also waiting to be created, and is my last submission for 2012. Appreciate it! AnonymousAnimus (talk) 14:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your drafts are correctly submitted; there's no need to bring them up at the help desk when you don't have any questions. Huon (talk) 15:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am a freelance writer trying to submit this article on behalf of Nominet. It is being rejected. Please can you tell me how I can modify it for Wikipedia acceptance.

Much appreciated.

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.113.165 (talk) 15:25, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, you might want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest. Writing on behalf of the article's subject is discouraged.
Secondly the draft's language is unduly promotional, for example when it talks of "a wholly independent, reliable source of information and advice" - I couldn't find any independent source backing up that claim. You should probably use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source supports which of the article's statements.
Furthermore, many of the sources mention Knowthenet only in passing while discussing something else, and others, such as SourceWire, look like press releases to me, not reliable sources.
Finally, the article seems to give more space to Knowthenet's mission statement and things they are dedicated to doing than to things they actually do. See WP:MISSION. Huon (talk) 16:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wikipedia, I am considering changing the name of my article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alexander Coucoulas to the following name: Alexander Coucoulas (Father Of Thermosonic Bonding) so my Articles for creation would read ......Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alexander Coucoulas (The Father Of Thermosonic Bonding)

Is it appropriate to change the title as described above or should i leave it alone ? Gathr (talk) 16:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since we don't have any other article named "Alexander Coucoulas", there's no need for disambiguation. I'd thus leave it alone. Furthermore we aim for a less lyrical tone, so if he needed to be disambiguated, "Alexander Coucoulas (engineer)" would probably be better.
On an unrelated note, the draft relies heavily on primary sources such as Coucoulas' own research papers. Wikipedia content should be based on what others have written about Coucoulas, not on his own writings. Huon (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I made all kinds of changes to this page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Susan Branch this morning to finish it and cannot find them now. Is is gone? I pressed save page twice as instructed.

Do I have to redo everything?

Thanks you for nay help.

Editwriter98 Editwriter98 (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The only major edit to the article after it was reviewed is this one, probably not the one you meant. What may have happened is that you saved not your earlier edits, but just the re-submission of the draft (this edit). Please make sure you've saved your changes before re-submitting the draft, or the edits will be lost. Huon (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My article keeps getting declined.

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I keep getting this message no matter what content i have in my page. --- Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. The submission has not been accepted because it included copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work. --- I am not sure what copyrighted information they are referring to. I wrote all of the copy. Please help clarify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rcordes http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Garrison_Brothers_Distillery&oldid=527036278

rob


Rcordes (talk) 22:10, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's still the old message referring to the October 20 version of the draft. Yesterday it was reviewed again and declined not for copyright reasons but because it reads too much like an advertisement and doesn't cite enough reliable, independent sources - the lone reference is a PDF from the San Francisco World Spirits Competition website reporting on the San Francisco World Spirits Competition, a primary source. We're looking for newspaper coverage or maybe articles in trade magazines or culinary magazines, sources which have editorial oversight and cover the company in some detail. Huon (talk) 22:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]