Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2009/August/20

August 20 edit

Cat:First aid stubs/{{FirstAid-stub}} edit

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The result of the debate was deleted. –xeno^talk 17:27, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No articles categorized here, scan shows that there aren't many articles for this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:15, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Template is miscapitalised, and the subject is already thoroughly covered by other stub types. Grutness...wha? 23:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

delete as unused. Waacstats (talk) 08:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Empty stub categories edit

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The result of the debate was individual cases dealt with as listed below

Cat:Swaminarayan Stubs (see Template:Swaminarayan-stub) N deleted
Cat:Napoleonic Wars (1792-1815) stubs (category redirect to Cat:Great French War stubs) N deleted as implausible category redirect (note that, due to the nature of stub categories being populated by specific templates, all category redirects are unlikelyb for stub categories) Grutness...wha?
Cat:Croatia building and structure stubs N deleted as duplicate of existing category Grutness...wha?
Cat:Gardening stubs (category redirect to Cat:Horticulture and gardening) N deleted as implausible category redirect Grutness...wha? 09:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cat:A Series of Unfortunate Events stubs (category redirect to Cat:Lemony Snicket stubs) N deleted as implausible category redirect Grutness...wha? 10:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cat:Percy Jackson stubs/{{Percy-jackson-stub}} N speedily deleted. –xeno^talk 14:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cat:African academic biography stubs/{{Africa-academic-bio-stub}}(template is trancsluded in 1 page, which appears to be upmerged) N category deleted Y template doubly upmerged Grutness...wha? 10:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I propose deleting these empty categories and templates. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bit of a trainwreck developing here... These are different cases and need to be treated separately:

Swaminarayan Stubs - unproposed, miscapitalised, no template, already covered by Hindu-stub. Delete
Percy Jackson stubs - unproposed, badly-named template, misnamed category (equivalent permcat is at Cat:Percy Jackson and the Olympians), and too narrow a subject (permcat has only 18 articles... chances are that fewer than 60 of them are stubs). Delete
Category redirects should never exist for stub categories (there's no need for them since stub categories are always populated by templates). However, their existence is often a warning of deeper problems. In two of these cases, a stub category has been renamed without proposal, so deletion isn't the primary option here; discussion on which is the correct name is. Relist for discussion. The third (the Napoleonic one) was renamed after discusssion at WPSS and can be speedily deleted.
Croatia B&S stubs can possibly be populated. There are currently some 48 stubs marked with croatia-struct-stub - finding another twelve seems possible. Either populate or reupmerge (yeah, I know, upmerge sounds odd for an empty category, but the equivalent template exists and is in use) delete per Waacstats' comments. Good catch WS.
African academic biography stubs is unproposed, but not too silly an idea, given that the main way of splitting academics is by nationality. As such, this could be a useful holding category for academics from the various african countries which have not yet got separate categories (all of them!). However, the usual principle with current stub-sorting is to have templates for individual countries, not continents, so this may be a case of fill the category using appropriate nation-specific templates, delete the continent-wide template.

Grutness...wha? 23:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC) (amended 22:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Swaminarayan Stubs - delete we don't split Hindism by sects
Napolenic wars (1792-1815) stubs - I remember sme discussion on this and trust G's memory/looking up so speedy delete
Croaita building and structure stubs - delete as misnamed Cat:Croatian building and structure stubs already has 80+ articles
Gardening stubs - redirecting to a perm cat therefore delete and we already have horticulture stubs
A Series of Unfortunate Events stubs - I'd say delete and nominate the Lemont Snicket cat for deletion as well.
Percy Jackson stubs -delete as small and unlikely to grow
African academic biography stubs - I'll look at populating this week if time arises before any deletion.

Hope that covers them all. Waacstats (talk) 08:24, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FYI the inappropriately capitalized Swaminarayan was populated by Template:Swaminarayan-stub. Not empty, and I've "fixed" it for now, rather than create the proper-capitalized category if its just going to be deleted. –xeno^talk 15:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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