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Cut Brakes

If someone was to cut your brakes or drain your braking fluids from a typical family sedan, like in the movies, is it still possible to stop with your handbrakes? Jamesino 00:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

You're better off changing gears down first to slow the car down. --Asterion^talk 01:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe for a little bit, but after that I would expect the emergency braking mechanism to break. Pardon that awful, awful pun. Deltacom1515 02:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

In a manual-transmission car, you can. Downshift to the lowest gear to use engine braking to slow the car down, then once you're going as slow as possible, slowly apply the parking brake to bring the car to a stop. For an automatic transmission, it might not work: since you can't force first gear, you won't be going as slow when you apply the parking brake. --67.185.172.158 04:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Most automatics I've used do have a "2", which limits the gears to first and second, and a "1", which limits the gear to first. These are normally used on hills, but can be used for emergency braking, too. StuRat 04:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Suppose the car doesn't have that. What would happen if you put it in reverse? You'd screw up the gear, but would the car stop and how sudden would it be? DirkvdM 06:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

In the case of a manual (before we come to an automatic) you'd have great difficulty getting it into reverse - as the teeth of the opposing gears touched (travelling quickly in opposite directions) they'd smash together, forcing the two apart. With enough yanking on the gearstick you might be able to keep them together, in which case they'd smash big chunks of one another, a violent process that would certainly consume lots of the car's kinetic energy. But I'd be surprised if you could pull the stick hard enough to keep that process going for more than an instant, and you'd have to steer with the other hand and hope the gear selector mechanism (which is surely much weaker than the hefty gears themselves) wouldn't break first. Worse, in a front-wheel-drive car, there's a good chance the car would spin around. As to an automatic, I don't know if it would even let you put the transmission into reverse: the servos that move the years are unlikely to have enough power to keep them together in this circumstance, and the little computer than runs them is unlikely to try (for fear of ruining gearboxes in less urgent circumstances). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I've had my brakes go out on me before; I was able to coast into a parking lot at somewhat of an upward angle which slowed me to the point that I felt comfortable putting on the emergency/parking brake, which stopped me. I think if you tried to put on the parking brake at any speed you'd risk causing the car to spin in some awful way, though I don't know that for sure. --Fastfission 22:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Er---what about turning the ignition off thus allowing the engine to act as a brake (which requires that the transmission remains fully engaged)? After which there might just be sufficient brake fluid in the master brake cylinder to serve at least one of the disc/drum brakes. And yes, the hand/parking brake should be used to supplement the foregoing survival techniques, as should scuffing the tyres along a nearby kerbside, or scraping the side of the car against a wall or adjacent fence.

Ok, Ok, I know I know. I should have emphasised that when turning off the ignition, I did not mean that you should also lock the steering. Clearly, if you lock the steering, you will have no control of the car. So just turn off the ignition without also locking the steering. Ok? Good.

Selecting a doctor

The normal advice for how to select a doctor after you move to a new town is to ask friends, family, and co-workers for advice. In my case, however, I don't have any friends I know well enough to know their views on medicine, the only coworker whose view I know sees homeopathy as the cure for all life's ills, and my uncle has never heard of the germ theory of disease. How should I go about selecting a doctor, short of throwing darts at a phone book? --67.185.172.158 03:28, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

You appear to be in the U.S. See if there's a doctor-referral service in your phone book. Failing that, you can try your health-insurance company to see who is on your plan. If you're on an HMO, there may not be that many options. -- Mwalcoff 04:07, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd test them out. If you don't like how one treats you, find another, until you find one that's at least "good enough". StuRat 04:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

You could walk up to any healthy-looking really old people you see, and ask them who their doctor is.... only you might have to repeat the question a few times, and you might have to shout, and they might not remember.... TheMadBaron 09:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Does the area where you live have any local community-type websites? If so, you could post a message on the forum asking for recommendations. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 09:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

i want to read articles by swaminathan s ankaleshwar aiyar

10 th september times of india sunday times article by swaminatha s aiyer i want to read and print

Be patient and you might find it on the Swaminomics page soon. September 9th's article is already there.---Sluzzelin 06:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Tabon man, Negritoes, Indonesians, & Malays

What are the differences or similarities of the Tabon man, Negritoes, Indonesians, & Malays in terms of 1) ancestors 2) physical features 3) way of living 4) descendants? Thank you.

Perhaps our articles on Tabon Man, Negrito, Indonesia, and Malay people might help. But I don't think "Indonesians" is an ethnic group, so it'd be hard to make sweeping statements about the disparate people with that nationality. See Category:Ethnic groups in Indonesia for a list of the ethnic groups in Indonesia. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:19, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed Indonesia has loads of different people in it (the Papuas being the most obvious odd ones out). See Demographics of Indonesia#Ethnic groups. The country is a leftover from colonial days - that which the Dutch conquered and was thus lumped together was kept that way, which is pretty stupid and still causes a lot of tension in the country. Basically, it has changed from a Dutch colony to a Javanese colony and many of the rest are trying to break free from that, such as the Moluccans and the North Sumatrans. And a few years back the Dayak started chopping off heads again, of the Madurese taking their land away from them as a result of transmigrasi. DirkvdM 07:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

arab palastine

Some one was recently telling me that the palastinians were the underdogs of the middle east and were viewed so by the rest of the arab world until 1945 and the establishment of Israel. Is this true? how were they viewed before the israel palestine conflict began, and what country existed in this area before the establishment of Israel? Thanks

Read Palestine and linked history articles for descriptions of status between Ottoman collapse and founding of Israel (roughly 1918-1948). alteripse 12:14, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

This is probably a major reason the Israelis got away with taking their land from them. The Palestinians are poor and the rich Arabs couldn't be bothered with helping them. Had there been oil in Palestine, Israel would never have been. (?) DirkvdM 07:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It probably had more to do with the sparse population of palestine during the initial settling. Palestinians were simply outnumbered ridiculously, until the later arab reimmigration began. Before the israelis palestine was too sparsely populated to support a real government, when ottoman control ceased it became a sort of treaty zone administered jointly by european countries. --Darkfred ^{Talk to me} 21:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the original statement is accurate. The concept of "Palestinians" as an independent ethnic group is largely a creation of the 60s and 70s. In the 40s, it was the Jews vs. the "Arabs," and the Jews were considered the underdogs. In the 70s, people started talking about the Arabs of Palestine as a separate ethnic group, and all of a sudden, the Palestinians were the underdogs and the Israelis became the big bullies in some people's minds. -- Mwalcoff 00:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

the color of Noob Saibot is black or is the color of the shadow??

Ok, the shadow in mortal kombat is black (0, 0, 0), but this is the reason of why i am asking this. If for example they changed the color of the shadow to green, the character color would remain black or change to green, to him remain hidden??

I don't understand you completely, but as far as I know, basically any color could be made transparent, if you just program it beforehand. 惑乱 分からん 14:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

In MKII, both fighters have no shadows when you face Noob Saibot in Goro's Lair. His shadow does appear in the other games. Changing the color of just the shadow, if programmed correctly, shouldn't change anything else. --jh51681 00:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I will remake my question: The noob saibor has a costume (or he is) that has a color that make he able to hide on the shadows, or his costume (or he) is just black (0, 0, 0 RGB) and he is able to hide in the shadow in mortal combat just because the color of the shadow in mortal kombat is coincidently black (0, 0, 0, in RGB)??

I have trouble understanding exactly what you are asking, but on a computer screen, (of course) things using the same RGB color blend in with each other. 惑乱 分からん 13:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Look at this image (http://www.snibbe.com/scott/body_image/shadow_bag/images/shadow_bag_47_640.jpg) the clothes of the woman is black and not of the color of the shadow, if the clothe of the woman was a full cloth and was of the color of the shadow, the woman would be able to hide in the shadow, since the shadow is black (0,0,0) in mortal kombat even a character that is just black and not a shadow person could hide in shadow. Another way to explain, if they changed the shadow color in on a new 2d mortal kombat game to doen'st appear so (0,0,0) black, they would change the noob saibot color to make him of the color the shadow and making him able to hide in the shadows again, or he would remain black and now making him not possible to hide in shadows??

Famous Wikipedians.

Are there any famous people with Wikipedia profiles? Like, does Dick Cheney have a profile? Musli Miester 13:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Jimbo Wales springs to mind. JackofOz 13:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The most famous person I have ran across in my years is William Connolly at User:William M. Connolly. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)

That William Connolly link is a dud. Perhaps you mean William E. Connolly? --Richardrj ^{talk email} 14:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

No, it's User:William M. Connolley / William Connolley. --Fastfission 20:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) See Category:Notable_Wikipedians and Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles. You won't find Dick Cheney on these lists, but there are a few surprises among our members. -- Ferkelparade π 14:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, that would be William M. Connolley and User:William M. Connolley. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)

I don't know, I would say that Roger Ebert/User:Rebert is a bit more well known. But that may be cultural bias. Dismas|^(talk) 06:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Keep in mind that the most famous people editing Wikipedia may not actually have identified themselves. Instead, they might be editing anonymously or using a pseudonym — fame brings attention that they may not want. A famous film star would be bombarded with irrelevant comments from fans, and can you imagine how many times Dick Cheney's user page would get vandalised? I suspect that both the famous person and Wikipedia are better off if the person can just edit quietly without their presence becoming a focus of attention for those with no interest in Wikipedia's actual goals. (Just my opinion, of course). -- Vardion 01:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

This isn't really a famous Wikipedian, but Stephen Colbert did use it, but not exactly in a way popular here, but he was here, nonetheless.

John Romero has quite a few edits (compared to other "notable" Wikipedians), and actually aknowledged his existance, if anybody still remembers him.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  16:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Inquiry

Dear Sir

I am looking for a suitable machine which can read the radiation dosage from the film badge or TLD this machine can read the X-ray Gamma ray and neutron from the film badge or TLD which used by the workers

kindly advice me with a suitable machine to do the above analysis if available in your company and if not please direct me to the suitable suppliers to such a machines

regards

Hussam Shabban General Manager Doha Laboratory Doha- Qatar Tel ##censored##

A very complex field. There are lots of vendors that do this. At my work, they have a huge infrastructure to do this. You don't usually get any vendor advice (advertisement) here. --Zeizmic 14:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Nuclear instruments doesnt exist! Try a trade directory such as [1]--Light current 14:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

What about film badge readers? Nope. Film badge does exist! 8-)--Light current 17:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

love

How do i know that how much my family loves me?

Use an 'eighing scale' (from Science ref desk). --Zeizmic 15:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

How well do they treat you? Rentwa 15:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Love knows no measures. People's expressions of love may vary with factors as - their own personal experience of life, of you ; your own self-love ; &c. -- DLL ^{.. T} 19:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

If your family provides you with food, shelter and basic needs and is always in your business... it is usually a sure sign that they love you very much. If you live in the United States, you may find that a majority of families have difficulty showing affection and/or emotion. My advice? Print this question out and give it to them or place it where you know they will see it. They will see the importance of it to you and either be alarmed that you even have to ask... or possibly laugh it off because they do not know how to convey their love to you or each other. Even in families where there is neglect and abuse... there is almost always love. Try to focus on how much you love them. That is much easier to control. Another thought... When you have children of your own, remember how you feel now and make sure to let them know often with both verbal indications "I love you." and actions... spending time with them... listening to them. --JosephWisdom 20:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a much wiser answer. alteripse 23:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

And probably applies no matter where you live, be it America, Britain or India (as your IP suggests). Skittle 10:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Wellesley Unit, World War I

I am seeking the date when the Wellesley Unit arrived in France in WWI, and any additional information which may be had on it. Lanayre Liggera

If you are referring to Eric George Wellesley, of the 8th (Service) Battalion, this site: [2] suggests the battalion arrived in France on the 26th of August, 1915. - Akamad 15:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Personal Property Taxes

How many states impose a personal property tax?

What's personal property tax? Anchoress 15:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

And in which country? Does the property tax article help you?--Shantavira 18:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Probably the person asking the question means U.S. states. Personal property taxes are taxes on property other than real estate. Typically, these taxes apply to tangible assets such as cars, other vehicles, boats, and planes. Our property tax article doesn't list or give a count of the states that impose this kind of tax. I did a quick bit of web research and couldn't find a comprehensive list or count. However, my research suggested that a majority of U.S. states, but not all, levy some form of personal property tax. In some states, there is no state personal property tax, but individual counties or municipalities may impose one. Marco polo 19:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you thinking about things like the percentage-of-market-value component of the auto registration fee in California? Because I don't think that's a personal property tax, strictly speaking. Of course it's intended to be such a tax, in effect. But you're not liable for the tax just because you own the vehicle; you're liable for it only if you want to be able to operate or park the vehicle on a public highway. --Trovatore 23:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comics meta

Could someone define comics meta for me? I'm on a school computer, so all things blog are blocked, and evidently that's where atll the good definitions are. 64.198.112.210 15:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? If you are talking about http://meta.wikimedia.org , it doesn't seem to have particulary much information about comics... 惑乱 分からん 17:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you are referring to Comics Metaphysics or Metafiction? Either way, read the Meta article.Phelan talk 00:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Or, I suppose, comics about comics might be called "metacomics". StuRat 13:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Compare Sam's Strip. 惑乱 分からん 13:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps they were referring to mega comics, as in Super Mega Comics?  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  14:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

aluminium

Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)

what is tangential modulus ? what is the tangential modulus value of aluminium —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.163.146.11 (talk • contribs) 14:24, 13 September 2006

Is this another name for shear modulus?--Light current 16:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Unanswerable question. The tangent modulus varies along the stress-strain curve. And aluminum has an awful lot of alloys. --Zeizmic 19:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Whoever moved it, it would have been better to put it on hte Science desk. — [Mac Davis](talk) (New! SUPERDESK|Help me improve)15:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Home based businesses that really work and think tanks

I have spent countless dollars over the years investing in "Get Rich Quick", Motivational and Self development courses. With so many scams and con artists on the internet... and with so many people needing to work at home due to illness, disease and other reasons... (or just having the desire to be self employed from home) I am desirous to know if there is a place on Wickipedia that sifts through all the garbage and scams to provide real knowledge to people who desire to work from home via computer, telephone, etc.

I myself have a great deal of knowledge I would like to share. I worked for many years trying to develop a center of communication for people to brainstorm, test and report on various businesses conducted online or at home. It was my goal to provide people with a place to go for honest information with honest reporting about success probabilities and the true earnings that could be realized from various and diverse businesses conducted from home using a computer, a phone and business/investment programs that really work.

It would be a great way to help provide income and knowledge to people wanting or needing to work from home without going broke on all the scams and money grabbers out in the world.

The same question would apply to investments that are safe and brainstorming think tank areas to help solve the world's problems as it relates to human needs (health, nutrition, safe water, protection from the elements and war.)

Global warming, overcoming intolerance worldwide, protecting our future generations.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of original research. Sorry. Wooty 19:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Any ideas on how one would go about developing/creating a site much like Wikipedia... only geared towards providing answers and a forum for these types and other questions addressing the needs of the world and individuals? I would very much like to shift my projects to a more public forum which would consist of research, brain storming, think tanks, humanitarian aid projects, answers to questions that would help people regarding employment, investments, home ownership, preparing for disasters, best sources for purchasing food and necessities for storage, goals and gauges for financial contributions to worthy projects (x amount of dollars and hours are needed to construct a well for drinking water in Zubofoe. You may contibute financially by 'clicking' here'. You may arrange to volunteer by going to this site. And so it would be with as many problems as the world would choose to take on.) as well as visual puzzle style models of projects showing what has been done... what is left to do, etc.

I have spent years trying to find the right method of delivery for this project. I would very much appreciate and invite like minded people to participate in this grand undertaking. I believe the internet is the best vehicle for this much needed project. Please email me at <email addr removed> with the word "PROJECT" --JosephWisdom 20:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

There is no hope of sorting good from bad on this. The only good 'get rich quick scheme' is selling your scam to other people. This is, unfortunately, fundamental economics: low barriers to entry ('Anybody can do it!) mean that everybody is going to do it, and the value goes right out the window. I mean, if you really had a great 'stay at home' 'no skills needed' 'tons of money' job, would you tell anybody? (btw, have I got the formula for success! Send money!) --Zeizmic 22:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

My opinion is that such schemes are all a waste of money. You sound as if you are ready to write a book about it. You could also have an online newsletter with a free forum. The problems would be - a) would the advertising on your site pay enough to make it worthwhile, and b) how would you get your site known?

I do not have all the answers as it relates to getting this online and getting people involved. But I spent thousands of dollars and over 40 years working on this. As far as being worthwhile... anything I can contribute and anyway I can do it is worth it to me to share an abundance of knowledge and information I have gathered over the years.--JosephWisdom 20:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibilities for real home based businesses could perhaps be bookkeeping, accountancy, or proofreading. If you mean business where you are based at home but are able to drive around the area then you could try Man with a van - where you advertise in local newspapers, yellow pages, and local stores as someone willing to move things like furniture and other things from place to place. Van would probably translate as small truck in American english. Also being a landlord - buying houses to rent out to people. I suggest reading as many books as you can about letting houses rather than paying for any courses. Plus being a freelance something - freelance wedding photographer for example. Then there are the trades - plumber, carpet fitter, tiler, gardener, odd jobs man, and so on. These things usually require training and there is no guarentee they will be worthwhile. 62.253.52.95 19:12, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

JosephWisdom, good news: there is a great means to do this, in the wikipedia style. Wikia, run by the same people who started Wikipedia and by the same software, has a method where a community can start a wikia-style project, which can be developed by the community. Right now, they are at 1500 communities and are growing fast. Your project does have to be registered and accepted, but if your proposal rings true, it shoudl do well. LeyteWolfer 20:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a most helpful piece of information. Thank you very much for taking the time.--JosephWisdom 20:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

From an academic perspective I'd be very interested to know if you found any "get rich quick" schemes that work, or are they all rubbish? Are there any types of GRQ scheme that work better than others? I keep a large file of junkmail about GRQ schemes that I have been sent over the years. From a theorectical point of view (market efficiency and all that) I would not expect any to be any good. Thanks.

Twenty-five years ago I attending a seminar by Robert Allen called "Nothing Down". I bought the book with same title at the end of the seminar and bought a house the following week with no credit and no cash. While these deals are increasingly difficult to find, I am still able to do it. The best way to make money in real estate from my own personal experience is to save your money until you have about $10,000 or more. Put an ad in the paper that says; "I buy ugly houses!" You will usually be able to buy a house in a low income neighborhood for cash that would normally sell through a realtor for about $50,000. This still works. If you then sell the house on a rent option to someone with no credit or bad credit, you can make a good sum of money. This takes discipline. But it still works and has far greater return than an investment portfolio.--JosephWisdom 07:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Wheat and chaff

Is it the Ref desk's opinion that if students were to be able to attend the same lecture twice, they might gain a greater understanding of the subject matter? (I know I would have). Or is the current practice intended to separate the wheat from the chaff?--Light current 20:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

That "or" makes the whole statement terribly loaded. Anyway, it's fairly clear that repeating information improves understanding/recall/some other appropriate phrase. However, the "current practice" is more likely a question of balance: if only one lecture is sufficient (or provides an adequate framework for further study), then twice as much material can be covered per amount of time. — Lomn | Talk 20:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Im not intending to load the question. Im just interested in the general view on this.--Light current 20:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

From my experience, the best way to REALLY learn a subject is to have to teach it. Edison 21:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Then how do you explain all the teachers I've had who didn't appear to be at all familiar with the topic ? :-) StuRat 14:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Ill agree with that (altho I havent done any formal teaching)--Light current 21:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I also agree - I've often taught things I know little about. That proverb is not true. And at one very bad college I went to, the lecturers knew very little about what they had to teach.

Lectures are useless! I slept through all of mine and look how much money I make answering questions here.... --Zeizmic 22:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Too much! 8-)--Light current 22:21, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion - it would probably not increase your understanding. You would probably be better off spending the time studying or asking someone about the things that you don't understand. BenC7 10:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the brain needs time to digest part of the lecture, then after a suitable time (weeks or months?) attend again. I was not able to attend lectures more than once: if you didnt get it the first time it was hardluck.--Light current 16:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Or you could tape it. Natgoo 18:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

If student were able to attend the same lecture twice, I expect nearly all of them wouldnt bother. If they were compelled, they would resent it. If you gave a transcript or a tape, they would either not read or listen to it or get friends to get a copy in place of attending a lecture themselves. One way perhaps might be to get them to submit a summary of what they heard - make clear to them it is a summary and not an essay - but that would be open to copying from other students.

Giving the same lecture twice to the same class is almost certainly a waste of everybody's time. Much better value would be to take decent notes and then go over them and make sure you understand the concepts. If you find you don't ask your classmates or look it up in a textbook. Everything you are told in a lecture can also always be found in a textbook on the subject - at least for technical subjects and at undergraduate level. DJ Clayworth 21:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe that was the problem with some of my lectures: the lecturer didnt know how to put it over! I find now tho (years afterwards) that my notes seem a lot easier to understand than when I wrote them (but without any extra study of them) Does this mean I am now more intelligent or what? 8-? --Light current 22:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily true Clayworth. Some of the stuff I was learning at undergraduate level could only be found elsewhere in corporate handbooks, which they tightly controlled. Or were guesses at values by the lecturer, and found nowhere! Skittle 15:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Where can I buy a Hezbollah T-shirt online?

I'm looking for something with Hezbollah's logo on it, or "VIVA HEZBOLLAH!" or something like that. Anyone know of a good website that sells decent quality shirts? No, I don't want to start a debate about my politics, thank you.

There's gotta be some stores in Lebanon that has them. If you have relatives living there, you can ask them to find the stores phone number for you and you can order a few via telephone. Jamesino 23:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Feeding google with 'hezbollah' and 't-shirt' yielded 643'000 hits. The first hit is a site selling t-shirts. Seeing how easy this was and noting your comment on not wanting to start a debate on 'your' politics (which implies that you're conscious of the offense some people might take at seeing links to Hezbollah fan-article sites posted at the reference desk), I find it difficult to assume good faith. Please google it yourself. ---Sluzzelin 23:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Now that would be a good 'stay at home' business! Wonder how long it would last, though. --Zeizmic 23:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[www.cafepress.com/buy/hezbollah This] was the second Google hit for "hezbollah t shirts". There's both pro/anti Hezbollah and pro/anti Israel stuff there, so everyone who cares can probably find something to piss someone else off in the street with... --Kurt Shaped Box 23:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, selling propaganda to both sides. I wonder if they're in the arms trade, too... 惑乱 分からん 13:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

One of my policies is not to ever wear shirts that: A) Make you look like you might kill somebody, or B) Get you killed. — [Mac Davis](talk) (New! SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 02:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

So you wouldn't wear a t-shirt with a vampire on it? That's about half of my wardrobe.  :) User:Zoe|(talk) 03:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

You would probably not assume a vampire-like person to kill someone, unless you're one of these people that believe role playing gamers are suicidical satanists. It yould affect the type of people willing to date you, though... 惑乱 分からん 06:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

There are plenty places where you can have something imprinted on a t-short, like photos and such. robably text would be even simpler. Or take a marker and be creative. :) DirkvdM 08:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Interesting typo. T-shorts? You'd have to 'spread 'm' to wear those, I suppose. :) DirkvdM 08:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't those be ┴ shorts then? Maybe you meant to make the typo in a serif'd font, so they'd be T-shorts, and the middle part would function as a sort of third-leg, or possibly a space for some "other" appendage.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  14:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Leaving aside your reasons for wanting to buy a T-shirt advertising a terrorist organization, you should realize that wearing such a shirt in public is likely to get you assaulted or thrown out of school, work, etc. Considering it's equivalent to wearing a shirt that says "Kill Jews !", you can see why some people might take that a bit personally. StuRat 10:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Then again, I could do some awesome stuff with that shirt in a skit. — [Mac Davis](talk) (New! SUPERDESK|Help me improve)

Hopefully nowhere. That's pretty sick that anyone would even think about trying to make money from something like that. -- Mwalcoff 00:04, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, and in Cuba there are loads of people wearing t-shirts with the flag of arch-enemy USA. And they get away with it! It's quite sickening. :) DirkvdM 19:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Adrenaline makes you run faster?

Does a shot of artificial adrenaline, such as one from an EpiPen, help you run faster in sprints, such as the 100m-400m? Jamesino 23:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but you'd fail the urine test. --Zeizmic 23:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

It also might give you a heart attack (not just the injection, but the injection + the exercise). Anchoress 04:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Adrenalin is made by the body for the exact purpose of performing better physically (well, for a while anyway). Just get worked up about something (such as the prospect of the race) and you'll get a natural andrenalin shot. If you get worked up about things all the time without following it up with physical exertion youll get stress and that can also give you a heart attack. DirkvdM 08:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Reminds me of the blonde who succeeded her first test. -- DLL ^{.. T} 19:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)