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May 10

is Vanessa Ferrari dwarfism?

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PROOF! Vanessa_Ferrari she was 146 cm which means only a centimeter threshold to get away from dwarfism PROOF! Dwarfism under 147 cm is for male while the female is for under 137 cm, did you catch up on the statement? Oh no...! 146cm means looks like either the beast number 666 or 1946 car one year after ww2 is over.

I don't even know Vanessa Ferrari needs some hormone growth syringe shot. Vanessa Ferrari was a growth hormone deficiency because of almost reached the 147 cm pituitary gland goal.

almost... more like the Alamo in Texas! Cyberllamamusic (talk) 14:37, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

ps; Can they explain the gymnast are prone to dwarfism and need a cure.

the explanation for Vanessa Ferrari is a dwarfism gymnast is... idk I'm feeling freaked that gymnast was rarely exceeded under 147 cm I'm so scared. Cyberllamamusic (talk) 14:41, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, you're incorrect. Dwarfism does not have a hard limit at 147 centimeters, the Wikipedia article states "sometimes defined as an adult height of less than 147 centimetres", though having dwarfism doesn't mean that you aren't taller than that (some people with the condition are taller than 147 cm, and MANY people shorter than 147 centimeters don't have dwarfism). There are many causes to dwarfism, they are listed in the article I already linked, but just "being short" is insufficient to be said to have a form of dwarfism. Now, gymnasts tend to be smaller than the average person (though they do not often have dwarfism) because the sorts of things that gymnasts do favor smaller body types. The ability to twist around the axis through your middle (i.e. head and feet swap places) depends on the moment of inertia, which among other things depends on the length of the thing rotating. Shorter bodies are easier to make rotate, so all other things being equal, shorter gymnasts have an advantage. See, for example, this article, or this one --Jayron32 15:07, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

I think the only problem that a Gymnast at 146cm like Vanessa Ferrari may get a syringe shot of growth hormone in order to address classification from dwarfism to the normal height of an average female. Gymnast tends to high chance of low growth hormone. Cyberllamamusic (talk) 16:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Seems like inappropriate speculation about someone's medical information.69.243.146.7 (talk) 17:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

As the IP said, please redact your last comment as it's inappropriate speculation about someone's medical condition. As for the rest, unless she visited a quack, you're incorrect. Our article does mention some controversy about the use for Idiopathic short stature but any remotely competent doctor wouldn't simply randomly give someone an injection of a growth hormone, without properly considering whether there is sufficient justification. And having a height under 147cm as an adult is not sufficient justification by itself. Even short stature as a child would warrant further investigation before considering any treatment. Idiopathic disease should be one where you investigated as much as reasonable, not simply one where the condition is presented and you just decide you don't know the cause. If short stature during childhood is a concern, this would likely be a significant investigation especially before considering growth hormone therapy, to ensure you aren't prescribing a poor or even harmful treatment since you failed to investigate the cause and so missed something of concern (such as the cause you should be treating). Also if growth hormone deficiency or idiopathic short stature is a concern during childhood, growth hormone therapy would generally need to likewise begin during childhood to be effective. While there may still be a benefit to beginning therapy an an adult, it's not going to magically raise the person's height from 146cm to 147cm. Also therapy generally involves daily injections and is something that would be discussed with the patient and their parents if it's a child, not simply a doctor randomly giving someone an injection. Nil Einne (talk) 17:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Furthermore, physicians treat people with conditions or illnesses or whatever that affects their quality of life. Being 146 centimeters is not a disease or anything like that. It doesn't need treatment in and of itself. Growth hormone deficiency may be a condition that needs treating, merely being 146 centimeters is NOT a sufficient way to diagnose someone with such a condition. Being of unusually short stature in childhood may be something that could cause a doctor, together with parents, to look into why the child may not be growing as quickly as their peers, but often, there isn't anything to be done about such things. I come from a family of rather short people, who are otherwise quite healthy. Most people on my father's side are well under 5 feet (152 cm) in height, several are under the 146 cm noted above. They have no underlying health issues that causes it other than a genetic predisposition for being short. Height by itself is not a health problem, though lying outside the normal range may cause doctors to look for other issues, it doesn't mean there are any. Some people are just shorter than others. --Jayron32 17:51, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

• It's fine if people want to continue this for future readers of the archives, but just FYI, I've blocked the OP indefinitely so they will not be able to reply or redact anything. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

But is 146 cm too small for a federation? —Tamfang (talk) 00:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)