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Healthy beverages

I'm following this diet which I believe is quite effective and was wondering when they say in beverages section and limit intake of juices and milk. What do they mean when they say to limit intake of juices and milk. and they're recommending 100 percent fruit juice and low fat milk being healthy in moderation? Healthy_diet#Harvard_School_of_Public_Health — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.116.221.63 (talk) 04:55, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

It says to "limit intake" and to consume "in moderation". So some is OK, but don't overdo it. If in doubt, consult your doctor. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

No what I mean is I get that it's saying 100 percent fruit juice and low fat milk can be healthy in moderation but when it says limit juices and milk what are they talking about are they saying every juice and every milk? Whats the difference between milk and juice and 100 percent fruit and low fat I guess is what I'm asking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.116.221.63 (talk) 05:19, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

The text is: "Avoid sugary drinks, and limit intake of juices and milk. Coffee, tea, artificially-sweetened drinks, 100% fruit juices, low-fat milk and alcohol can fit into a healthy diet but are best consumed in moderation." So that implies that juices that are 100% fruit and milk that is low-fat are the healthiest of the juices and milk you're supposed to limit. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Didn't someone raise this same question a few months back? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 10:55, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

• The difference between 100% fruit juice and just "juice" is that there are many beverages that one would commonly call "juice" that contain very little (sometimes even no) actual juice, and may also contain significant amounts of added sugar. If it says "100% juice" than it would actually need to be nothing but juice. The difference between low fat milk and just "milk" is that what in the U.S. is called "whole milk" has about 3.5% milkfat in it, while lower fat milks can be sold, including 2%, 1% and "skim" milk (which has a negligible amount of fat). When they say "low fat" milk, they are saying that you should choose one of the lower fat options. For additional reading, here is an article from a public university on 100% fruit juice and wikipedia has itself has an article, which also has sources you can follow, titled Fat content of milk. --Jayron32 11:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

I get that it's saying water is the best option and that Coffee, tea, artificially-sweetened drinks, 100% fruit juices, low-fat milk and alcohol can fit into a healthy diet but are best consumed in moderation. I guess my question is when they say limit juices and milk when they say limit do they mean juices and milk are healthy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.116.221.63 (talk) 13:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

How much juice and milk? Too much can be unhealthy. Amounts matter. What they are saying is that you don't need any juice or milk in your diet, but small amounts are not unhealthy. --Jayron32 14:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Anything not consumed in moderation can be unhealthy, including clean drinking water. Fruit juices are high on sugary carbs and low on protein and fibre. Fruit tends to have a lot of fibre, which slows down the intake of sugars. Excessive soy milk consumption can contribute to the formation of kidney stones in some people.  --Lambiam 23:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

According to our esteemed National Health Service, "limit the amount of fruit juice, vegetable juice or smoothie you have to no more than a combined total of 150ml a day (1 small glass)". [1] Alansplodge (talk) 13:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

To clarify as well, the standard size of a bottle of beer in many European countries is 330 mL (11.2 ounces), for comparison. In North America, that would be 12 fluid ounces (355 mL). So the recommended daily maximum according to the NHS for such drinks would be a little less than half a bottle's worth. In terms of imperial measure, 150mL is about 2/3 of a cup. --Jayron32 16:10, 13 August 2020 (UTC)