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May 1

Unexplained Problem

Has there been any edits to the article Om mani padme hum that concerned the Tibetan transcription of the mantra? A while ago I copied the transcription and used it as the name for a project of mine. I've only just noticed that the text I copied, which has been the project name for some time now, is སྤྱན་རས་གཟིགས་. The mantra on the article however is given as ཨོཾ་མ་ཎི་པདྨེ་ཧཱུྃ. སྤྱན་རས་གཟིགས་ phonemically reads pa-na-ra-sa ga-ze-ga-sa, which isn't even Tibetan, it's nonsense. déhanchements (talk) 01:49, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

There was a change [1] on Mar 19 but I can't read Tibetan to know if this is the one you mention. Rmhermen (talk) 05:55, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

ཨོཾ་མ་ཎི་པདྨེ་ཧཱུྂ༔ is the same as the current text on the article but with a needless symbol at the end. Anyway, this may be be a mistake of mine somehow. Is it possible that the edit I'm looking for was deleted from the page history? déhanchements (talk) 06:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

No revisions of the history have been deleted or hidden. This change may be of interestGraeme Bartlett (talk) 08:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

That's the one, thank you. déhanchements (talk) 16:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Tourism type

Is there a name for tourism where one wants to blend with and behave like locals instead of using typical tourist services, like guides, planned destinations, trips, etc? Thanks. 212.180.235.46 (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Experiential travel seems to go in that direction. --Wrongfilter (talk) 17:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

James Holzhauer, the millionaire champion of currently-airing Jeopardy! episodes, has said he and his wife would like to take a year to travel around the world, spending a month in each country they visit. Would that qualify? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Rick Steves' travel shows also tend in that direction, avoiding "tourist traps" with expensive restaurants and cheap souvenirs and instead encouraging staying at hostels, using public transportation, eating at local delis and bakeries, etc. Of course, that "blending in with the locals" part only goes so far. If you visit a non-tourist area of a nation where everyone is of a different race from yourself, your not going to "blend" all that well. Also, if you don't speak the local language, you're not going to blend in and could get into trouble. Unlike in tourist areas, you can't assume locals will know English. There can also be health risks. For example, unlike at nice hotels, you can't assume the water is safe to drink everywhere else. SinisterLefty (talk) 14:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

There is something similar that is usually referred to as homestaying where you actually stay with locals in their home and experience their everyday life-which as well as getting to be immersed in the culture may give a chance to take part in activities that the usual tourist won't have access to-possibly going to sporting or musical events or to their place of worship. You may also be able to join in things like celebrations or family or tribal ceremonies that are off-limits to outsiders. Lemon martini (talk) 19:58, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Also, young people may have opportunities to be an exchange student or work as an au pair, to immerse themselves in that culture for an extended period. For older people, retiring to a nation also gives you the time to "go local", and, in some cases, a better standard of living (such as maid service) can be had in nations with lower labor costs, etc. SinisterLefty (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Assignment

yes I have a assignment that I am required to post a entry for publication and for public viewing. How do I do this? Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SAVANNAH2005 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

If I understand it correctly, your assignment is to create a new article for Wikipedia. You can certainly do that, but there are all kinds of pitfalls along the way. Read Your first article for more information. I would say the most important thing to keep in mind is that the subject of your article has to be notable, i.e. has already received significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Make sure you pick such a subject, make sure it doesn't already have an article and make sure you quote those sources in your article. The Teahouse is a good place to hang out and get help on this stuff. Also, it looks like you've created an account which is a good idea, but on talk pages like this one you should sign your posts by typing four tildes, like this ~~~~. Good luck, --Viennese Waltz 06:36, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Origin of the surname Petkere

I'm clueless but curious about Bernice Petkere's surname. Even when excluding "Bernice" from Wikipedia and Google searches, the results appear to be about songs by "B. Petkere" or just by "Petkere". Does anyone have anything conclusive about the origins of this surname, perhaps anything about changes done by immigrant ancestors to their original name? Thanks in advance! ---Sluzzelin talk 21:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Nothing conclusive but I note Petker seems significantly more common [2]. Note that I don't think the Bernice there is the same person, the 'husband' there is not one of those mention here [3] [4]. These sources [5], suggest the Petker surname is of German origin [6] and may be spelled Poetker, Poettker, Poetjer, Poettcker, Pottkau. BTW, the earlier sources also support the view the surname probably came from her parents not one of her husbands. (Besides their names, note her sister's full name given in IMDB.) Nil Einne (talk) 07:17, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Looking a bit more, I've found some other interesting things. Various sources including our article and Findagrave claim Chicago [7] as the place of birth. This was the same place as where the marriage to Bernice Petker and that other person was registered. I wonder if it's possible it was a typo and annulled or something or not spoken about for personal reasons. Another weird thing is the Naomi B. Petkere listed as marrying a Frederick B. Bernstein. This [8] and this [9] suggests Naomi was the middle name of Bernice Petkere. However despite the similarity the family name spelling and the middle initial don't seem to match Bernice's second husband [10] and while I guess the familyname could have been changed after marriage it seems a bit weird the middle name wouldn't match. (Unless the middle name was Berrens.) Probably more like the husband's name is a coincidence. The wife's name probably is as well although the date range of the records means it could be an aunt or niece. You could also look at the other people with the same family name and see if any seem like they could be related. [11] doesn't work as well as I hoped, or maybe there are none. Nil Einne (talk) 08:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Some googling indicates that the surname Pöttker was a historical term for potter (de: Töpfer), probably stemming from the Low German. On immigration, the name may have been modified to dump the Umlaut and to anglicise it. As a native speaker you will have no problems to research any relevant German references. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 09:17, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Nil & Cooky! The final e in Petkere had thrown me off, totally. ---Sluzzelin talk 16:43, 3 May 2019 (UTC)