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June 9

About wrong content in article relating to Hindu temple

Sir,

This is the executive officer of Shri Garbarakshambigai temple, Thirukarukavur, Tamil Nadu, a state government appointed officer to manage the temple. An article has been created by Shri. Ssriram-mt about this temple in the title 'Garbharakshambigai_temple'. The content regarding the 'Legend' has been misrepresented which may confuse the readers. We need it to be removed or edited. The original content can be seen from our website www.garbaratchambigaitemple.org. Thanks. Need your co-operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EO, temple (talk • contribs) 03:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

This is the wrong place to bring up the problem, but anyway I have edited the article and responded to you on the article's talk page. Any further discussion should happen there. Looie496 (talk) 06:15, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Any material related to Saturn's Cube and Hyper-dimensional Cubes?

I need help with materials related to the planet Saturn, specifically about

1.) the supposition that it was a dwarf star before that cooled into a planet;

2.) the alleged effects of this planet on our planet's electromagnetic dynamics;

3.) the mention of the Saturn's cube on various ancient and medieval texts, both Western and Eastern;

4.) the association of the planet with the deity named after it and to the deities El, YHVH, El Alilah, Allah, Cronus, Baal, Moloch etc.;

5.) the alleged control of this planet on the wave or atomic spins of matter within our solar system, thus governing "time" as we humans understand and perceive it in our dimension.

Thank you. Hotridge (talk) 06:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

This search reveals some material on Saturn's Cube and related matters. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 06:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Wow - thanks Jack! That's a whole universe of paranoid mystical hogwash that I knew nothing about. *files it away for use in a Delta Green campaign* AlexTiefling (talk) 10:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Just doing what the OP ought to have done - searched for the thing he wanted to know about. I just reported what my search revealed. He did thank me privately, indicating he needed material more suitable for references. I told him it was a starting point. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 20:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

1) Saturn's mass is way too low for it ever to have been a 'dwarf star' in any meaningful sense.

2) Saturn is too remote from Earth to have any significant electromagnetic effect on it; who alleges otherwise?

4) It's very hard to know what you mean by 'etc' here, since the deities you list are not analogous - indeed, El and Baal are quite different. And I'd be very interested to see any reliable sources associating the planet Saturn with YHWH/Allah. The planet is, of course, named after the deity, not the other way round.

5) This looks like complete pseudoscientific garbage. Again, who alleges such a thing? AlexTiefling (talk) 10:36, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

There are allegations that it must have been a star. Recently, its behavior approaches those of a supernova, sending shockwaves across space. And no, it isn't so distant to have any significant effects on our planet. ( NASA's Cassini spacecraft has spotted solar particles moving at incredible speeds near Saturn, giving scientists a rare up-close look at phenomena that occur during dramatic star explosions. The particles flowed from the sun during a strong blast of solar wind, then plowed into Saturn's magnetic field shortly thereafter. This encounter, which Cassini observed in February 2007, created a shockwave that accelerated the particles to super-high energies, scientists said. Similar shockwaves commonly form in the aftermath of massive star explosions called supernovas, ramping up nearby particles to nearly the speed of light. Researchers think supernova shockwaves are the primary source of cosmic rays, high-energy particles that pervade our Milky Way galaxy and slam into Earth's atmosphere continuously. [source: http://www.space.com/19879-saturn-particle-accelerator-cassini-nasa.html]...and besides, isn't it a general assumption that all planets including Earth were once part of a giant solar-nebula that perhaps collided with mini-clouds of hot plasma otherwise known as a supernova that later cooled into slow-moving particles called as material solids and liquids which are the sensible parts of what a "planet" is?

On point #4, "Their names were put down therein, as Adonai, genius of the Sun, lao of the Moon, Eloi of Jupiter. Sabao of Mars, Orai of Venus, Astaphai of Mercury, and Ildabaoth of Saturn." (source: "The Gnostics and their remains : ancient and mediaeval" Charles W. King/ C. W. KING, MA., 1887, http://archive.org/stream/gnosticsandtheir00kinguoft/gnosticsandtheir00kinguoft_djvu.txt)

"The planet is, of course, named after the deity, not the other way round." Or it could be that the deities are merely metaphors for the name of the planet it personifies. That isn't very clear yet. Is the deity separate from the planet or are they related in any way?

Hotridge (talk) 17:08, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Sounds like something out of Immanuel Velikovsky or one of his followers. He was popular back in the '70's, when weed was stronger and people hadn't learned to tolerate its effects. μηδείς (talk) 16:09, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. He has written indeed some books related to the subject of this inquiry. Regarding Velikovsky, he wrote (or published) the book "Worlds in Collision" in the year 1950; the book "Cosmos Without Gravitation" in 1946. It would rather be unethical and highly-speculative of me to suppose that the author was under the influence of some mentally-distorting herb when he wrote these books that may discredit his thesis or the factuality of any accounts he have may have personally written about the subject from the early 1940's till the early 80's.

By the same token, since E and Meth have been rather popular in the last two decades, it's rather laughable to suppose (in the future) that all accounts published within the same time period (and perhaps until now) are byproducts of psycho-active, drug-induced exaggerations and suppositions. (Concerning psycho-active substances, we're not yet sure if these supposed herbs/extracts do indeed create cognitive aberrations that result in blatant misrepresentation of facts or in the publishing of books that are contrary to all known measures of validity. That has been a trend these days, to allege that accounts outside the confines of "orthodox" "science" is a byproduct of "crackpottery" which is in itself a very unscientific and unfounded "belief.")

When we are after the truth and facts, quick dismissal of informative resources are suspect of initial bias, and in a free and open encyclopedia like the Wikipedia or in the realm of pure scientific inquiry, such character can be very unproductive or malignantly unobjective.Hotridge (talk) 04:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Getting from Tallinn harbour to Tallinn bus station in one hour

I'm going to a photography workshop in Kuressaare, Saaremaa, Estonia, in late July. To get there, I would have to take the 13:00 bus from Tallinn bus station. MS Finlandia from Eckerö Line arrives at Tallinn harbour at 11:45. This leaves me about one hour to get to the bus station. Is this enough time? Should I take a taxi? JIP | Talk 17:24, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

See http://www.experttravelanswers.com.

—Wavelength (talk) 18:37, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I submitted a question there but it isn't showing up at "Recent questions". How do I know if the question has been submitted? JIP | Talk 19:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not know. I searched 20 blocks of 10 questions each, without finding any question about Tallinn.

—Wavelength (talk) 23:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Keeping it in the family, you could also try Wikivoyage:Tourist_Office. Rojomoke (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

At Google Maps, "Get directions" shows a route of 5.0 kilometers with an estimated travel time of 10 minutes. "This route has restricted usage or private roads."

—Wavelength (talk) 23:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

See http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/8340/from-tallinn-harbour-to-the-main-bus-station.

—Wavelength (talk) 23:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

According to this page, it's only a 25-minute trip if I take bus #2 from Reisisadam to Autobussijaam. JIP | Talk 04:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

This seems to be sorted out. I just received news that some friends of mine are going on a cruise from Helsinki to Tallinn just two days before. So I decided to join the cruise, but after embarking on Tallinn, I'm not going back on the cruise. Instead, I'm staying in Tallinn for the whole day, and going to Kuressaare and then back to Finland on my own. This leaves me enough time to get to Kuressaare at my leisure, and even explore Tallinn in between. The only downside is that it is going to cost me about 60 € more. JIP | Talk 16:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)