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Oricon charts

Is there anyplace I can go online to get oricon Japanese album charts? I need album chart listings from 1984-1997 for Dragon Ball soundtrack information. An IP added a few links to some album charts awhile back, but these links now lead 404 pages. Sarujo (talk) 12:28, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I guess five days with no response either means nobody here knows, or there isn't any. Sarujo (talk) 08:29, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

World income distribution

Where can I get the global income distribution in csv/excel/whatever? All the statistics on global income distribution I can find seem to be per country and not in the kind of format that it would be trivial to aggregate to a world distribution. I'm just wanting to make a zany grading system where your quantile gets converted to an income, so accuracy isn't super critical, but I'd still prefer something up to date and accurate. --81.175.227.88 (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I googled for "World income distribution" and obtained some graphs that seem to be what you want. What I don't see is the numerical data from which you could make a csv or whatever. You may just have to measure points on the graph. Anyway, check out: http://rs.resalliance.org/2009/10/28/world-distribution-of-income/ which links to this paper: http://www.nber.org/papers/w15433.pdf - which contains the parameters for best-fit lognormal, gamma and weibull distributions - you could certainly plug those into an excel spreadsheet. SteveBaker (talk) 19:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Viewing Full Census Records for the 1860 U.S. Census

Basically, I am trying to help verify this one case of a man who allegedly died at age 112 in 1967. Here is James M. "Uncle Jim" King's obituary: http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/franklin/obits/1960s/1967-06.txt. Basically, the Gerontology Research Group (GRG) verifies the ages of supercentenarians (people who are 110+ years old)-- http://www.grg.org/Adams/B2.HTM. Basically, for the 1860 U.S. Census, FamilySearch does not let you view the whole household in a particular U.S. Census form. In contrast, FamilySearch lets you view the whole household (all of the members of this household) on later U.S. Censuses. Here's an example:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VYT3-QNJ

James M King, "United States Census, 1940" Name: James M King Titles & Terms: Event: Census Event Year: 1940 Event Place: Police Jury Ward 8, Franklin, Louisiana, United States Gender: Male Age: 85 Marital Status: Widowed Race (Original): Race (Standardized): White Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized): Head Birthplace: Arkansas Estimated Birth Year: 1855 Residence in 1935: Same House Enumeration District Number: 21-26 Family Number: 8 Sheet Number and Letter: 1B Line Number: 41 NARA Publication Number: T627 NARA Roll Number: 1401 Digital Folder Number: 005454637 Image Number: 00763 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head James M King M 85 Arkansas Son George E King M 60 Louisiana Son-in-law A E Hynum M 58 Mississippi Daughter Lucy Hynum F 52 Louisiana Grandson Walter Hynum M 36 Louisiana

Does someone here already have a subscription to Ancestry.com or a similar website which allows one to look at the whole household in the 1860 U.S. Census? I think that the 1860 U.S. Census already recorded and enumerated all of the members of a particular household. I need some help in searching the 1860 U.S. Census, since finding an 1860 U.S. Census match for James M. King would be crucial in helping him get verified by the GRG. Thank you very much. Futurist110 (talk) 22:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd try asking at WP:REX. They may be able to help with subscription-based services like Ancestry.com. --Jayron32 22:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I was unsure about whether or not WP:REX was the proper place to ask about this, but since you recommended it, I might as well give it a go. Futurist110 (talk) 22:57, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

There is family tree info and supporting records at Ancestry, but I did not find him in the 1860 census. This does not in any way disprove he was born in 1854. Have you found elsewhere supporting documents such as his marriage record from 1878 (to Clara Brinsfield), the 1900 census stating his birth date as Oct 1854, the 1880 census stating he was then 26? Do you know his parents' names, since there were lots of little J. Kings in the 1860 census (some census takers just recorded initials and last names. Have you seen the discussion of his census records (including some possible 1860 census records) at "The 110 club?" Wikipedia's "spam filter" does not allow me yo post a direct link, but I just did a Google search on "James m king" 1854 arkansas Some inferences are needed, to determine which J King or James King in the 1860 census he might be. Edison (talk) 23:04, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

There are several James King entries for Arkansas in the 1860 census, but you would need to tell us more about his parents, siblings, etc. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:23, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I found a large amount of records for James M. King, all of which I posted in/on the 110 Club forum, I think in the Potential Cases section. Hopefully everywhere here can see my research on him in that link. Basically, the GRG has a 20 year rule where there needs to be a (reliable) documents from within the first 20 years of someone's life in order for a case to become pending, and eventually, verified. While I did find an 1870 U.S. Census match for James King and two of his brothers in Missouri in 1870, this census match is not completely unequivocal since theoretically it could be another James King (though this is probably unlikely) and since this U.S. Census match does not list him with his parents in Arkansas (rather, it lists James and apparently two of his brothers living with a different family in Missouri, since apparently James's parents both already died by 1870). A page about James King's father is located here: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tnkaren1&id=I0082.

Basically, James Madison King had three brothers:

• James Madison ** (Jim) King b: 15 NOV 1854 in Independence, Arkansas, USA
• John King b: BEF 1864 in Independence Co, Ark
• William E. King b: 1853 in Mississippi
• Early McCullough Edward (Mack) King b: 24 FEB 1856 in Independence Co, Ark

Also, I managed to find the death certificates for two of James King's brothers on FamilySearch (you can see them for yourself at my 110 Club link). Basically, it appears that James King's mother's name was Ann Slaughter (King). James's marriage record would be outside of the 20 year window, which it why it would be nice to find an 1860 U.S. Census match for him. Keep in mind that some names can be misspelled in the 1860 U.S. Census. Basically, if there is a household in the 1860 U.S. Census in Arkansas which includes the names of most or all of King's family members (his three brothers, plus his parents William Edward King and Ann Slaughter) plus James King himself, then this household is probably the correct 1860 U.S. Census match for James King. While I believe that he was indeed born in 1854, early-life (within the first 20 years of his life) evidence in favor of his claimed age is much more important than evidence against his claimed age. Futurist110 (talk) 00:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Scans of the 1860 census are available including here. If you can read fancy hand and know the location of the family. Indexes are more widely available. Rmhermen (talk) 00:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I cannot read "fancy hand," and I am not very good at going through hundreds of pages to find what I want. Futurist110 (talk) 00:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I did find several potential matches for James M. King and/or his family in the 1860 U.S. Census, but I need some help in seeing the names of the whole household in each of these matches:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WM-4HY

James King, "United States Census, 1860" Name: James King Event Type: Event Year: Event Place: Minor Civil Division: Johnson Township Age (Expanded): 6 years Birth Year (Estimated): Birthplace: Gender: Page: 6 Household ID: Affiliate Publication Number: M653 GS Film number: 803049 Digital Folder Number: 4211308 Image Number: 00394 Sources

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"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WM-4HY : accessed 02 Jun 2013), James King, 1860.

Can this be his 1860 U.S. Census match?

What about this 1860 U.S. Census match:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WQ-GSH

J King, "United States Census, 1860" Name: J King Event Type: Event Year: Event Place: Minor Civil Division: Barquee Township Age (Expanded): 6 years Birth Year (Estimated): Birthplace: Gender: Page: 42 Household ID: Affiliate Publication Number: M653 GS Film number: 803044 Digital Folder Number: 4211303 Image Number: 00257 Sources

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"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WQ-GSH : accessed 02 Jun 2013), J King, 1860.

Could this be James's brother's William's 1860 U.S. Census match:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8W7-YXH

William King, "United States Census, 1860" Name: William King Event Type: Event Year: Event Place: Minor Civil Division: Union Township Age (Expanded): 6 years Birth Year (Estimated): Birthplace: Gender: Page: 90 Household ID: Affiliate Publication Number: M653 GS Film number: 803043 Digital Folder Number: 4211302 Image Number: 00422 Sources

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"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8W7-YXH : accessed 02 Jun 2013), William King, 1860.

Could this be James's father's Edward's 1860 U.S. Census match?:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WM-DFD

Edward King, "United States Census, 1860" Name: Edward King Event Type: Event Year: Event Place: Minor Civil Division: Plain Township Age (Expanded): 40 years Birth Year (Estimated): Birthplace: Gender: Page: 123 Household ID: Affiliate Publication Number: M653 GS Film number: 803049 Digital Folder Number: 4211308 Image Number: 00522 Sources

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"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WM-DFD : accessed 02 Jun 2013), Edward King, 1860.

Could this be James Madison King's brother's Early McCullough Edward "Mack" King's 1860 U.S. Census match?:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WM-G56

M E King, "United States Census, 1860" Name: M E King Event Type: Event Year: Event Place: Minor Civil Division: Spring Hill Township Age (Expanded): 4 years Birth Year (Estimated): Birthplace: Gender: Page: 151 Household ID: Affiliate Publication Number: M653 GS Film number: 803041 Digital Folder Number: 4211300 Image Number: 00239 Sources

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"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8WM-G56 : accessed 02 Jun 2013), M E King, 1860.

I'm sorry for all of these 1860 U.S. Census matches, but since I don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, I can't see the names of the whole household in any of these U.S. Census matches. sad.gif Thus, I need someone who has an Ancestry.com subscription to please help me out and see if any of these U.S. Census matches are indeed for James Madison King's family. I am perfectly willing to share credit for verifying this case, if this case eventually gets verified. Also, it is worth noting that no verified undisputed man has surpassed James M. King's claimed age until 1992 (when Frederick Frazier did it), 25 years after James M. King's death. Futurist110 (talk) 00:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I think ancestry.com offers a short, free trial period. That might enable you to find what you're looking for. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Free 1860 indexes are widely available. Here] is Family Search's, [Here] is GenWeb's/ Rmhermen (talk) 13:41, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

The cemetery where he's buried (See his FindAGrave entry), may also have documentation you'd find relevant. They seem to be affiliated with Boeuf Prairie Methodist Church, 4590 Highway 135, Winnsboro, LA 71295, USA (318) 723-4706; I find no separate listing for contacting the cemetery. Dru of Id (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Laura Ingalls Wilder bio

First, I want to say. It was very difficult to find the right place to make a comment. But more importantly , I wanted to commend the voluteers and staff of Wikipedia. I just read the biography of Laura Ingall Wilder. Not only did I have my question answered, but finding the article facinating, I was pulled in and read every word. Just wanted to say "Job Well done!".Mona kruger (talk) 22:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

On behalf of the volunteers who created the article, you're welcome. Did you have a question about Laura Ingalls Wilder? Edison (talk) 22:30, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

The best place to make a comment on any article is the Talk page of the article itself. There's a tab at the top labelled Talk. Just click on that and then Edit the page, putting new material at the bottom of the page. Technically, Talk pages are for discussing proposed improvements to the article, but I'm sure the editors concerned would welcome your feedback that it's excellent as it is. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 01:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

On the default Vector skin the tab is actually labelled "Discussion" rather than "Talk". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)