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editThai transliteration
editDoes anyone at Wikipedia speak Thai and would be willing to transliterate a few words for me? I have created a transliteration via autotools but they are notoriously unreliable when represented in non-Roman characters. I have tried at WP:TRLA with little success. Any other ideas? Is this even the best desk to ask at? -Thibbs (talk) 22:39, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- I can do that for you. Do you really want a transliteration (a mapping of the graphemes)? Or a transcription (linguistics) (a romanized representation of the sounds)? Just leave the "few words" here and I'll get to it as soon as I can.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 01:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- WilliamThweatt, Thank you so much for your assistance! The phrase is "วิกิพีเดีย:โครงการวิกิวิดีโอเกม". Some background: I help with one of the WikiProject newsletters and I have always used transliterations when possible when referring to newsletters from other languages so I guess I'd prefer the transliterated version for consistency. -Thibbs (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Thibbs: The RTGS transcription is most commonly used for Thai and should serve well as a "transliteration" for your purpose. A true transliteration of the Thai would be unreadable in English because, in Thai, some vowel sounds are written before the consonants they follow and many consonants have completely different sounds when used at the end of a syllable. The RTGS of your phrase is "wikiphidia: khrongkan wiki widio kem". "โครงการ (khrongkan)" means project and the rest should be obvious. Note: the RTGS uses "h" to show aspiration so "ph" is /pʰ/ not /f/; likewise "kh" is /kʰ/. The RTGS also does not show tone or vowel length, which seems irrelevant for your purposes anyway.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 17:07, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ah that's perfect! Thank you so much! -Thibbs (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Thibbs: The RTGS transcription is most commonly used for Thai and should serve well as a "transliteration" for your purpose. A true transliteration of the Thai would be unreadable in English because, in Thai, some vowel sounds are written before the consonants they follow and many consonants have completely different sounds when used at the end of a syllable. The RTGS of your phrase is "wikiphidia: khrongkan wiki widio kem". "โครงการ (khrongkan)" means project and the rest should be obvious. Note: the RTGS uses "h" to show aspiration so "ph" is /pʰ/ not /f/; likewise "kh" is /kʰ/. The RTGS also does not show tone or vowel length, which seems irrelevant for your purposes anyway.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 17:07, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- WilliamThweatt, Thank you so much for your assistance! The phrase is "วิกิพีเดีย:โครงการวิกิวิดีโอเกม". Some background: I help with one of the WikiProject newsletters and I have always used transliterations when possible when referring to newsletters from other languages so I guess I'd prefer the transliterated version for consistency. -Thibbs (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)