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October 18

What kind of hat is this?

What the heck am I?

Is this a fedora? I assumed that it was, but our article on fedoras say that they are made from felt. I was thinking Boonie hat, due to the strap and the fabric, but it defiantly has the distinctive shape of the fedora. Confused, ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 00:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks like if you took Indiana Jones' fedora and installed air-flow screens. →Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots← 00:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This kind. 173.103.183.112 (talk) 00:55, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

"fedora-inspired" Thanks. :) -----J.S (T/C/WRE) 01:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

My hat! I'm quite fond of it. —Tamfang (talk) 08:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

confidentiality

I understand that if you and I make a pact, and agree to keep it between ourselves, and If I choose to tell some one else. I have broken our confidentiality. My question relates to, am I breaking confidentiality to a loved one? for example, if a loved one is in a facility, and they, ie the clients within the facility, all agree to a code of confidentiality, and a person can call in to a phone booth; that is provided within the facility for such a purpose, to give and receive calls. Have I broken confidentiality, if when the stranger answers, and I ask for the loved one,who may or may not be available, and the stanger and I have a private conversation, where they tell me about themselves, and say something like I have lost my mom, and I tell them I am a mom. Etc. In other words, just a conversation, where one thing leads to another. Have I broken confidentiality, to my loved one?. My thought is, if they, the clients within the facility, have sworn to confidentiality, to each other, And I have asked for whatever I said, to be between us only. Did the client within the facility violate his or herself, when they spoke of whatever to the loved on, or Did I break confidentially, when I had a casual conversation, with a stranger.76.22.96.75 (talk) 07:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you please explain the conversation more clearly? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 07:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

If you're asking if you break confidentiallity by telling confidential information to a loved one, then yes. Vimescarrot (talk) 10:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Technically, if you have entered into an agreement, whether verbal or written, whereby you are not to tell something about the person you have entered into the agreement with, and then you go on to tell somebody that information without the prior agreement of the person with whom you have entered into the agreement with, then you have broken that confidentiality. It doesn't matter if that person has an agreement with other people regarding confidentiality. --KageTora - SPQW - (影虎) (talk) 11:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This is how I would interpret your scenario. A is you, B is your loved one, C is the stranger. C has broken their agreement with A, as A asked C to keep the information confidential, and C passed it on to B. C hasn't broken their agreement with B, because C didn't tell A anything that B told C. A and B don't have an agreement of confidentiality in the first place (at least, you didn't say that they had), so A didn't break any agreement. Tevildo (talk) 11:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Your question is confusing, partly because you are vague about the confidentiality agreement itself, and partly because I don't see how having a "loved one" involved is important to your example. You say that everyone in the facility has agreed to a "code of confidentiality". You don't explain what exactly is confidential — normally, in any business that I've seen, the employees all have signed confidentiality agreements as part of their employment, but the confidentiality is about all aspects of their work. If you call up a random person, "Abe", at the business and have a conversation, then Abe is not violating his confidentiality agreement unless he talks about the business's internal matters with you. Does that answer the question? Tempshill (talk) 02:55, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Russian heaven?

Does svarga is Russian mean heaven? And does dievas mean gods? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.11.117 (talk) 15:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Svarga and dievas may be two starting points. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 15:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

No and no. The Russian word for heaven is "небеса" (nyebyesa), related to "небо" (nyebo, sky). The Russian word for gods is "боги" (bogi). — Kpalion^(talk) 18:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe the OP may be talking about the pre-Christian / polytheistic mythology and not about the terminology in current use. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 19:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

So is the paragraph in Svarga which says In Slavic religion Svarga is Heaven, the residence of god Svarog. wrong? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 19:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't know for sure, but I generally suspect any unsourced Wikipedia article about old Slavic religion to consist mostly of neopagan fantasies. — Kpalion^(talk) 20:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

The article on Svarog has some references on early Slavic mythology. You may be able to check a library for one of the listed academic sources to avoid neopagan waffle. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.