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editMargarethe von Helfenstein
editI have a problem at Margarethe von Helfenstein, when did she die? (I will copy any answers to the talk page there.) Margarethe was the illegitimate daughter of Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor, sister of George of Austria and wife of de:Ludwig V. von Helfenstein-Wiesensteig, who was killed in 1525. So far, there are three different answers in the sources
- The Belgian Nouvelle Biographie Nationale says "morte en Allemagne après 1531" [died in Germany after 1531].[1]
- Deutsche Biographie's article on Maximilian I says she died in 1525,[2]
- Some German sources say she died in 1537 in Liège, e.g. "nach dem Tod von Ludwig Helferich zog die Witwe in die Niederlande, nach Lüttich, zu ihrem Bruder Georg von Österreich, Fürstbischof von Lüttich (Georg/Joris war der illegitime Sohn von Kaiser Maximilian I. und Margareta von Edelsheim), starb dort 1537" [After the death of Ludwig Helferich, the widow moved to the Netherlands, to Liège, to her brother George of Austria, Prince-Bishop of Liège (Georg/Joris was the illegitimate son of Emperor Maximilian I and Margareta of Edelsheim), died there in 1537.][3] "Nach 1515 heiratete Graf Ludwig von Helfenstein , der 1525 in Weinsberg ermordet wurde , Maximilians ältestes uneheliches Kind Mar- garethe ( geb. 1480 , gest . 1537 Lüttich )" [After 1515, Count Ludwig von Helfenstein, who was murdered in Weinsberg in 1525, married Maximilian's eldest illegitimate child, Margarethe (born 1480, died 1537 Liège)][4] Oddly George of Austria became Prince-bishop of Liège in 1544.
References
- ^ Coenen, Daniel (1999). "de Helfenstein, Marguerite". Nouvelle Biographie Nationale – Volume 5 [Margarethe von Helfenstein] (PDF) (in French). Royal Academy of Science, Letters and Fine Arts of Belgium. pp. 92–93.
- ^ "Maximilian I". Deutsche Biographie (in German). Retrieved 23 September 2024.
- ^ Naubert, Christiane Benedikte (29 February 2016). Der Bund des armen Konrads: Getreue Schilderung einiger merkwürdigen Auftritte aus den Zeiten der Bauernkriege des sechszehnten Jahrhunderts. (Transkription von Evelyn Hess) Neu herausgegeben, mit Fußnoten und einem Nachwort versehen von Sylvia Kolbe (in German). Engelsdorfer Verlag. p. 350. ISBN 978-3-96008-342-9. Retrieved 23 September 2024.
- ^ Tagung, Lehrstuhl für Allgemeine Geschichte des Mittelalters und Historische Hilfswissenschaften in Greifswald Interdisziplinäre (2002). Principes: Dynastien und Höfe im späten Mittelalter : interdisziplinäre Tagung des Lehrstuhls für Allgemeine Geschichte des Mittelalters und Historische Hilfswissenschaften in Greifswald in Verbindung mit der Residenzen-Kommission der Akademie der Wissenschaften zu Göttingen vom 15.-18. Juni 2000 (in German). Thorbecke. p. 283. ISBN 978-3-7995-4514-3. Retrieved 23 September 2024.
TSventon (talk) 13:49, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
@Deamonpen, Dimadick, Aciram, and Tfjt: TSventon (talk) 13:51, 23 September 2024 (UTC)