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January 7

Original script drafts of movies in articles

The page for Alien 3 contains several paragraphs describing considerably more interesting earlier versions of the script by different script writers; which appears to be a major source of interest in the film. The page for Return of the Jedi however does not mention early drafts. the IMDB trivia page mentions the death star being constructed by Wookie slave labour; is it appropriate to add brief first draft information to movies; or should Alien 3 receive editing to be more like the other pages for films? CensoredScribe (talk) 06:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

It's fine to include that sort of information (alternate/deleted/unfilmed scenes), but you will need to have a reliable source such as a book, news or magazine article, even DVD commentary or interviews... IMDB doesn't cut it as a reliable source I'm afraid, as it is user contributed content (so is Wikipedia but it has the capacity and requirement for citations which IMDB doesn't). See the essay Wikipedia:Citing IMDb for more info. --Canley (talk) 08:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Who is Dr. Morad Yasin

Dr. Morad Yasin Deab AlRefo Poet Writer was born in Jordan 1975 His famous work( the 7th floor) The leader of (Travel Without Borders). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.121.214.15 (talk) 13:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Asked and answered here. WP:CREATIVE is the relevant guideline - if Dr Yasin is within it, he can have an article. Otherwise, he can't. Tevildo (talk) 22:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

What is the story of 7th floor mystery by Dr Morad Yasin AlRefo?

Self-promotion
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Thanks for asking about the story... You, its true., well, I am a writer and I wrote very interesting stories about the world of the unseen, the world of the hidden creatures, who live with us and our eyes cannot see. I decided to produce the story as a film and I made the first practice scene which is the one you have seen in youtube. At the time of shooting this clip something rather unusual happened with the actor, he for some reason felt uncomfortable and said that he could feel the presence of another being of sort.I could also feel the presence of another which I never told the actor about it. So we had to stop the shooting for that night. After going home I decided to have a quick look at the little amount of shooting that I have captured, and it chilled me to the bones to notice that the clip contained the image of a person he was never there with us. He was like a shadow following the actor who moved like he did, walked like he walked and dressed like he was dressed but looking at that clip for the 97th time I could tell that it was something unexplainable. I am fortunate that I have captured it on film which I have every intention of letting people see that clip which I would reveal when this movie complete. Until then what you have seen in youtube is all that I can post for the moment. (I have also come across certain experiences after shooting this clip which I considered is a massage to stop and not to popularize what the 7th floor is all about. Scene its not factious. Amidst all the happening I have decided to continue shooting and if there should be any strange happening I am sure to capture it on tape which I will show after the movie completed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.121.214.15 (talk) 14:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC) It sure sounds like a film artifact to me. That is, a 2nd image of the actor. The Science Desk might be the best place to ask how such an image can be created while filming. However, consider that ghosts are not supposed to dress and walk like actors, right behind them, under any ghost story I've ever heard. Also, you used the term "film", but is this really film or a digital recording ? StuRat (talk) 14:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC) Forgive me, but this thread seems like blatant advertising for a youtube video in an effort, perhaps, to make it "go viral". It's framed as a question (the header) followed by a reply from the OP to himself. There is no question we can answer. It's just self-promotion, isn't it?-- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 20:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC) Indeed it does. It's odd he didn't link to it, though. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:58, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Are there LONG-TERM consultants in the FBI and "CBI"?

Hello, hear in France we watch some US TV series in which we see "consultants", e.g. :

• Castle is a FBI consultant in the eponym TV series
• Patrick Jane is a CBI consultant in "The Mentalist". (I think the CBI is an invention, isn't it? ; but it's not the subject of my question).
• and more recently for us, Sherloch Holmes is a FBI consultant too in the TV series "Elementary".

My question comes because in France the State Police or the Local Polices are (I think) forbiden to employ "consultants".

So, question: Does the FBI employ consultants? If yes, how can they pay them? --Joël DESHAIES (talk) 14:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I would expect that the FBI would use consultants, yes. When you need people with high pay rates, for a short period of time, this is often the best way to go. (Those people probably wouldn't be willing to join the FBI as employees and work for 20 years seniority to get the high pay rate they demand.) The money for consultants often comes out of the same budget as equipment, so more consultants would mean less for computers, etc. StuRat (talk) 18:02, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Holmes in the series Elementary is a consultant to the New York City Police Department, which does, I believe, employ consultants. Not sure whether his NYPD consultancy is portrayed realistically or not.Catrionak (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm the one who asked the question (the OP you say) and thanks to to your answers, I now realise that I wasn't clear. It's not surprising that the FBI employs consultants from time to time, specialists in a subject and so on. That's why I added LONG-TERM in the title. My question is better: Are there consultant who work every day for years for the FBI or other such police services? I thank you for the answers I already got.--Joël DESHAIES (talk) 20:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

J. Edgar Hoover was a long time consultant for the FBI, serving until his death in 1972. 193.169.86.13 (talk) 00:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Cop shows and the like often have real-life cops as consultants. I think what the OP is asking is whether the actual FBI or other police institutions bring in consultants or contractors. Apparently that's also a yes. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:10, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I work with some (IT) consultants who have been "consulting" at the same place for years. Certainly in the world of IT, consultants often only leave if the company says they won't renew their contract or something better comes along. Of course, a few choose to quit for other reasons, but the holy grail of many IT consultants is the never ending contract paying hundreds of dollars per day. Not sure if law enforcement agencies have some limitation on consultancy contract renewals or whether they are renewed only as needed and for as long as the budget is available. Astronaut (talk) 15:13, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

In the examples above, both Castle (Castle) and Holmes (Elementary) are consultants for the New York Police Department (NYPD), not the FBI. There are FBI consultants in the series Numb3rs (Charlie Eppes), and White Collar (Neal Caffrey). In real life, the author Paul L. Williams was an FBI consultant for seven years. --Canley (talk) 00:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)