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Saturn

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This article is already a GA. However, I wish to promote it to FA status, of which it has a great potential. Therefore, I nominate it for a Peer Review. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Universe=atomTalk•Contributions 13:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RJH

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It's getting better, but I think it still needs a little work. So here goes:

I hope these were somewhat helpful. Thanks. — RJH (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ruslik

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Review My general impression is that the article isn't ready for FA. It is not comprehensive and well sourced. The references are mostly various webcites that often don't cite their own sources. The rare good references are usually old and originate mostly from the Voyager era. Some statements are simply wrong. Now some examples:

  • 3) In "Composition" subsection the phrase "consists of about 93.2% molecular hydrogen and 6.7% helium" is wrong: modern value for helium is close to 15 %. The ref [9] is obviously too old;
  • 4) In the same subsection the sentence "The quantity of elements heavier than helium are not known precisely, but the proportions are assumed to match the primordial abundances from the formation of the Solar System." is wrong: heavy elements are now known to be overabudant in Saturn much like in Jupiter;
  • 5) In the "Internal structure" subsection the phrase "having a small rocky core made up mostly of the elements hydrogen and helium at the center" is contradictory. If it's made of H and He, how can it be rocky ? This subsection is also lacking necessary references;
  • 6) The "Clouds layers" subsection contains few sources and should be expanded. It is focused too much on the polar vortex, which is IMO of minor importance. In addition the phrase "that Saturn has a warm polar vortex, and is the only such planet known in the solar system" is wrong since polar vortexes are observed on Venus. The phrase "because eyewall clouds have not been seen on any planet other than Earth" in the next paragraph is wrong by the same reason;
  • 7) The section "Magnetic field and magnetosphere" is too short. It claims that "Its strength is one fifth than that of the field around Jupiter (although stronger than Earth's magnetic field), giving the Saturn a smaller magnetosphere", which is completlely wrong. The strenth of the cronian magnetic field at the equator is 0.2×10−5 T or 0.2 G (can be calculated from the magnetic moment in [23]), of the terrestrial one – 0.35 G, and of the jovian – 4.2 G. In addition the section should discuss the influence of the inner moons on the magnetosphere;
  • 8) The section about rings cite only few sources and the first two paragraphs in the "Physical characteristics" subsection are devoid of them at all. The same can be said about "Spokes of the rings" subsection.

This list isn't complete. I only gave some examples. The article IMO should be focused mainly on the planet itself because rings and moons have their own articles. Ruslik 08:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the concerns raised in both reviews have been taken care of. However, as of yet, I have not received any replies on my askings of how the new versions of the suggested changes are. Any further reviews would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Universe=atomTalk•Contributions 12:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While the number refs is OK I would like to see more citations from peer reviewed sources, i.e. [3] or even pdf files is they are freely accessable. Ruslik 13:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am in the process of adding a couple of citations throughout the article. Universe=atomTalk•Contributions 16:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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