Wikipedia:Peer review/List of Popotan soundtracks/archive1

List of Popotan soundtracks

This peer review discussion has been closed.

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because I need help determining how to divide the article. I was told to look at artilces like List of Aria (manga) soundtracks and that helped to some extent, but the problem is the Popotan franchise is much more diverse; first off the visual novel has multiple CDs for it and released as different types. Then there is a radio drama as well (and discography and albums doesn't appear to have a place for radio dramas, even ones with lots of music). Also there is one release that appears to be for the all three major media formats: visual novel, anime and radio drama so I'm not sure where that should go. Finally, a number of the songs were released in generally unrelated band albums for Under17 which charted so I don't know if and how to reference them, especially as the songs were released on multiple Popotan CDs themselves. Oh and also I'm not sure if I need/should list CD soundtracks that come with games and if {{Cite video game}} can be used to cite pre-order items for 1st print runs.

Should the article be split and can it be justified being split?

Thanks, 陣内_Jinnai 23:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a reason for a split. There are no length issues. When List of One Piece video games was a FLC, it was required to add a bit of reception into the lead. Maybe something similar could be done here like adding surveys in which the CDs were featured such as the ones from Oricon.Tintor2 (talk) 01:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I asked about the split not because of size, but content. Maybe renaming the article might help. Some of the stuff is about the radio drama which isn't a soundtrack really.
As for reception, other than the chartings I can't find any reception/impact, but I'll check around later.陣内_Jinnai 01:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Was the anime featured in North America? Maybe there is some comments regarding the music in reviews from the anime.Tintor2 (talk) 01:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I think I saw commentary from 1 source. However, is that really appropriate in a listing of soundtrack albums?陣内_Jinnai 01:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Now that I rethink it, maybe this article could be moved to "Popotan discography" although that could be discussed in the project. About the reviews thing, I think there is no other way to add critical reception since I have never heard that Japanese anime CDs were published in North America.Tintor2 (talk) 02:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Not really a discography though. Radio dramas and the like are explicitly not covered under discographies. I'm also not really sure what the difference is beyond soundtrack list and discography list as this isn't really "a study" of the soundtracks.
As for reception, yea, and that's while you note none of the best anime soundtrack lists do not have a reception, because no verifiable one exists. Check the WT:ANIME archive for some of the others as examples and you'll note none have any reception really.陣内_Jinnai 02:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, we have an English-language review of of the Aria soundtracks, but haven't gotten around to using it for reception (it's sourcing a production detail tho'). Our intent was to eventually incorporate it into the main series Reception, rather than the list of soundtracks. I believe I've also seen a review of one of the Azumanga Daioh soundtracks, but I seem to have misplaced it, and don't know where it would go. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

ETA: Ah, the Azudai review was of the image song album, and it's being used source information about it, but not currently in Azumanga Daioh#Reception. There's no separate soundtrack list for that franchise. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:07, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Know where on oricon I can search for any surveys? I have links to the album info thanks to another wikipedian, but no survey info. Still doesn't really address the issue with Poporaji or Under17's related media.陣内_Jinnai 20:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

The polls are supposed to be in Oricon's official site, but I don't know Japanese.Tintor2 (talk) 21:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

There are some blog entries (which probably won't pass WP:RS and release info, which I already have Popotan, Poporaji, Under17 Best陣内_Jinnai 22:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I see. In this blog there are two links for other two oricon pages. They seem related to the CD.Tintor2 (talk) 22:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

First one links back to the same page and 2nd is broken. Not a good sign.陣内_Jinnai 01:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Too bad. I also took a look at Comipress and ICv2, but couldn't find anything.Tintor2 (talk) 02:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Not unexpected, but I'm not thrilled by it. I wish there was more reception of the soundtracks available. Video game soundtracks generally fair somewhat better, even obscure ones for Japanese games.
Anyway, putting reception aside, can you help with some of my other questions/concerns?陣内_Jinnai 05:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion it is okay list CD drama here. Don't know if the manual of style of the project talks about that, but I find it suitable. By the way, I have seen that music articles like Music of Final Fantasy VII do not use cite video game template.Tintor2 (talk) 13:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)Looking at that maybe having the Under17 live tour and best of albums put into a legacy section might be best.陣内_Jinnai 21:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree (sorry for the late reply).Tintor2 (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment: Well it looks as good as it can be knowing how limited the materials are. Concerning the Drama CDs, i agree that they could be merged with the rest of the CDs but it should not systematically done so. The main point is soundtracks are byproducts of a piece of work, an anime or a video game while Drama CDs are piece of works by themselves. If the Drama CDs are few and not much notable merging with soundtracks is ok but when there are a lot of Drama CDs and most ranked in charts keeping them apart should be discussed. Facepalm fact is fansubbers started to fansub Drama CDs so having summaries for Drama CDs may become in the future (yea, a variant of anime episode list or manga chapters list). --KrebMarkt 20:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. There are 2 drama CDs for the set, neither of which themselves charted, but which had a song that charted on other CDs. So I guess then by that account it is okay to leave them as it is?

What about the visual novel soundtrack CD that came with the VN? Should that be listed?

And the Under17 related stuff should be mentioned in the legacy section then. Should i put track listings and/or add them to the table or just prose?陣内_Jinnai 21:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree for legacy section. Now for inclusion in the table, it should depends on how much the albums are related to Popotan in terms of content. If it's strong add them. --KrebMarkt 07:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't think too much. They are all complilations from various sources so none of them have any strong connection with Popotan or any other game/anime.陣内_Jinnai 19:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright I added all the info to about Under17's related released to legacy. Neither Funta nor Osamu Tezuka have produced any other works with those songs on them. Also, is the formatting fine or not?陣内_Jinnai 22:12, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Look great & shiny but that just my opinion. --KrebMarkt 07:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)