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List of Brigham Young University alumni

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I've listed this article for peer review because I've never been through the FLC process before and I recently overhauled this list. A peer reviewer would please do standard copy editing throughout the body of the list and in the References section.

Thanks, Eustress (talk) 23:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Interesting list, clear that a lot of work has gone into it already, but still needs more work before FLC. Here are some suggestions for improvement:

• A model list article is useful for ideas to follow on style, structure, refs, etc. I suspect you have already seen this, but List of Georgia Institute of Technology alumni is a FL and seems an excellent model.
• I also note that they have split out their athletes in a separate List of Georgia Institute of Technology athletes using WP:Summary style
• I would make the lists sortable - this is fairly easy to do and makes the lists more useful for interested readers

• Can you explain what you mean by this? We already have sorting capabilities within in section. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• I have no idea how I missed that - sorry. I would not make one-entry lists (Nobel Prize) sortable. Also not sure refs and comments have to be sortable. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• I would also make sure that the information in the lists is as complete as possible - for example many of the people do not have a class year listed.
• Similarly be consistent on what is given - if you list the school for some alums (Marriott), why not all (or at least say if no school is listed, then undergraduate or whatever). Similarly why are some degrees listed but not others "Bruce C. Hafen 1964 B.A." but "Dallin H. Oaks 1954" also appears to have a bachelors degree from BYU, but no BA or BS is listed.
• Some of the references are web pages that do not seem to be reliable sorces. For example, the reference for Harvey Fletcher does not say he is credited with inventing the hearing aid (I do not doubt he did, just if you claim this in the list, the ref must back this up). It does mention his role in the famous Oil-drop experiment which led to a Nobel Prize for his PhD advisor (which I would list). The ref cited is just a web page and probably would not meet WP:RS - there are surely other RS for his work. This is just one example picked at random - check all refs.
• I would not break the list into so many sub-lists - do US Senators and Representatives really need to be listed separately? Why not one list for Politicians and one for Judges, or an even one big Public Service list?
• I would also try to avoid inlcuding red links in the list - if they are notable, they should have an article. This will help prevent alumni who are not notable from adding themselves (list cruft)
• References are incomplete - many need more information. For example, internet refs need url, title, publisher, author if known and date accessed. {{cite web}} mayy be useful here.

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 15:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you so much for your review...this will give us a good checklist to work on! --Eustress (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)