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Hezbollah

previous PR

Thanks for the wikipedians who have tried to improve the article, It's apparently reached A status. Now we need your suggestions before nominating it as a featured article. Thanks a lot. --Seyyed(t-c) 13:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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I have not looked into the article too much but I did notice many areas with over-referencing. I understand the controversy of the subject and it is not a major issue but it makes the article harder to read, plus its unnecessary;two would suffice for particularly controversial sentences/passages. I will look into article some more soon. --Al Ameer son 06:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• I've just read this article (well at least the first half), and I found that it is remarkably neutral, a great achievement for such a controversial article. However it lacks in many things: akward article structure, missing important information, and too many lists. I'll try to give you some suggestions about how to improve it.
  • The "Background" section is odd and ill-defined. It starts with the current political situation of Hezb, then its social activities, then its history with Israel, then its relation. I think this section serves as a summary, but It is badly organised, and I don't think this practice is good.
  • There is no clear "History" section that presents how and why Hezbollah was formed and its development. Instead they are scattered throughout the article in the "Ideology", "Political" and "Military activities".

During the last years, editors of the article have found that this is a better way to describe the issue.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• • The "History" section should be divided as in the related article and describe briefly and in this order: The Origins, during the Lebanese civil war, 1990-2000, and after Isreali withdrawal.

related article is part of this article which was moved to reduce the size of it. I think we can add a brief description to the background. --Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• • "Political activities": I'd like this section to describe the political history of Hezb, why it decided to join the political life (unless you put it in the "History" section)

That's an important issue and we can describe it in brief.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• • The political section should be much larger than that, describing Hezb electorate, regions of influence, relations with Amal...

We need a Lebanese editor to improve it.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• • What this article really lacks of is the Lebanese views of Hezb and how it evolved, and this applies to each community. How it was seen by Shiites, how it was rejected by Christians, then gained support after Hezb-Aoun alliance, how the druze and sunnite community was supportive before March 14...

Again, we need a Lebanese editor to improve it.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• • "Military activities": It's too listy, we should find a way to write everything in prose.
  • A small description about Al-Manar programs, to show that it is a normal TV station with its news, programs, sitcoms...

I disagree. There's a separate article for this reason.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• • It would be better to include at the end a brief list of important Hezb people (leaders, MPs, ministers)

We can make a template. --Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that this article needs a major revamping in order to describe a political, social and military organisation like any article describing a Western organisation. However, I cannot but appreciate the tremendous effort Wikipedians made to make this article as neutral as possible. Keep up the great work. Thank you. CG (talk) 18:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

In brief, I would agree with you if the article weren't 90kb.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)