Wikipedia:Peer review/Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media/archive1

Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media edit

I've listed this article for peer review because I believe it's close to meeting the criteria to become featured. My main concerns with it are the lead and the name changes, as this particular award has had many. I'm open to any comments on how to improve these sections and the whole list as a whole.

Thanks, BeatlesLedTV (talk) 00:46, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Rhinopias edit

Hi, BeatlesLedTV. Great job compiling this into a table! Here are some notes:

Lead

  • Not sure if (and its many previous names) is useful; a comment like "The award has been known by many names …" somewhere in the lead may flow better, but see my thoughts below on the names
  • When reading the lead the first time I confused the first Grammy Awards ceremony with the first year the award was presented – I think It has been awarded since the 2nd Annual Grammy Awards in 1959 should be in the first paragraph
  • The established in 1958 may not be necessary then as "2nd Annual" covers that, and how long ago was the ceremony called the "Gramophone Awards"? (This is prominently mentioned on Grammy Award)
  • Multiple wins/nominations could be elaborated on more like in Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album § Artists with multiple wins if it's warranted (but maybe not – I don't see many repeating names!)

Name changes

I'm not really sure what to suggest here. I don't know if every single previous name that the award has had is worth mentioning in a list? (Also, are all of those previous names in the three references at the top of the list?) I think that this could be made into just a paragraph mentioning the original name, names used for a while (e.g. the one used from 1979–1986), and when the roles the award is presented to has changed (e.g. 2001, 2007 from lead). Alternatively, maybe just the few most recent changes if readers are not ever likely to come across the oldest of the names.

  • I put all of its previous names into a table. Hopefully it looks good. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 05:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Much improved! I'm still not sure if all of the name changes—with how very frequent they are—warrant inclusion, but if it's after the recipient list I don't think it detracts. Rhinopias (talk) 06:23, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think the vast number of names (wow – indecisive much?) warrants a section touching on this but would it be better to place it after the list, which I imagine is mostly what readers arrive at the article looking for.

Yeah that's exactly why I brought this to peer review because it has had a LOT of previous names. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 05:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Recipients

  • Don't think it's a barrier for featured, but would it be better visually for references to be integrated into either the Year or Work column instead of their own?
  • Normally it makes more sense for references in these type of lists to have their own column.
  • I think the footnote on the Year column's heading should be grouped with the other notes from the table, or all of them be present immediately after the table
  • Consistent capitalization of "Various artists"
  • In the notes for awards given to various, maybe mention the work – e.g. "For Beverly Hills Cop, various artists include …"
  • The images all being prior to the table is sort of annoying on mobile, but I'm not really sure how to resolve that with the listing in table format besides breaking the table in half or by decade or something
  • Yeah it's annoying but that's how normally the way it's coded. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 05:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Later addition: also, Various artists, John Williams, Howard Shore, Hans Zimmer are a bit overlinked. If the name hasn't appeared in a while it's probably appropriate to redundantly link within the table, but those four appear multiple times in a row in certain parts. Rhinopias (talk) 06:23, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hope this helps! Rhinopias (talk) 00:06, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]