Free Derry edit
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I've listed this article for peer review because this is an important topic, closely related to the start of The Troubles in Northern Ireland. I think it is good enough for GA but I'd like to have some feedback.
Thanks, Scolaire (talk) 20:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have made changes [1] based on the semi-automated review above. Hopefully these have improved the article. Is the lead too long now? Scolaire (talk) 17:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- The lead should be a stand-alone summary of the rest of the article and for an article of this length should be 3 - 4 paras per WP:LEAD. BTW, all dates should be unlinked as they are deprecated. ww2censor (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- To clarify, (1) are the current two paragraphs, which summarise the article, long enough to split into three or four paragraphs per WP:LEAD? (2) MOS says "dates are not linked unless there is a particular reason to do so"; all linked dates refer to events that are dealt with in the corresponding date and year articles - is that not a reason to link them? Scolaire (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps the most recent Signpost will explain it better Scolaire. Further down the MOS page deprecation is mentioned. Many articles are having their dates unlinked by a bot though I don't know the criteria for being included in the processing, so one way or another dates will be unlinked. I was just trying to update you, to avoid you unnecessary work. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 22:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I'd been hoping somebody could point me to the most recent discussion. I gather that what is deprecated is the linking of dates purely for the purpose of autoformatting. I would say that any links in Free Derry are still justified, and I'd be inclined to undo any delinking by a bot. Scolaire (talk) 06:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Those decisions on dates are up to editors of the article, it's not for me. Regarding the lead, It seems somewhat too detailed to me but could likely be divided into 3 paras at least, perhaps even four, but I would be inclined to shorten it a little in a precis style. I enjoyed the read as I had forgotten most of the details after so long. Good luck ww2censor (talk) 13:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I'd been hoping somebody could point me to the most recent discussion. I gather that what is deprecated is the linking of dates purely for the purpose of autoformatting. I would say that any links in Free Derry are still justified, and I'd be inclined to undo any delinking by a bot. Scolaire (talk) 06:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps the most recent Signpost will explain it better Scolaire. Further down the MOS page deprecation is mentioned. Many articles are having their dates unlinked by a bot though I don't know the criteria for being included in the processing, so one way or another dates will be unlinked. I was just trying to update you, to avoid you unnecessary work. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 22:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- To clarify, (1) are the current two paragraphs, which summarise the article, long enough to split into three or four paragraphs per WP:LEAD? (2) MOS says "dates are not linked unless there is a particular reason to do so"; all linked dates refer to events that are dealt with in the corresponding date and year articles - is that not a reason to link them? Scolaire (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- The lead should be a stand-alone summary of the rest of the article and for an article of this length should be 3 - 4 paras per WP:LEAD. BTW, all dates should be unlinked as they are deprecated. ww2censor (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)