Wikipedia:Peer review/College of the Holy Cross/archive1

College of the Holy Cross

This week I'm working on a deeper history, better sports section, and update to the notable alumni section.

I guess I should wait till then, but I'd really like some feedback now since I want to keep going in right direction and I see how helpful everyone is!

Anyway biggest issues are:

1. Copy editing and style (I followed outline for UNIVERSITIES but would love any tips/advice on how to make better than is) 2. Finding pictures and understanding how to use (All I get so far is that anything shot before 1923 is A-OK to use within fair use guidelines) 3. Citing sources (Have we done it right??)

If you see anything else let me or the discussion page know.

Thanks Destinvil 09:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite impressed, nice work! I'm not an expert on style guidelines, but since there doesn't seem to be a response here I'll do my best. I'd especially really like to see images of campus, architecture, sports, famous alumni, or anything. Having someone take and make available free-use (GFDL/etc) images is far preferable to trying to find fair-use images (I am not a copyright expert/etc). Checking images on (for example) MIT or University of California, Berkeley shows that this is the case for most of their images. Perhaps there is someone in the area who could do this? I'm also not a citation expert, but I would like to see book titles, at the very least, in the reference section for non-web sources (not just "last name, year, link to Amazon"). There is quite possibly another person named Kuzniewski who published something in 1999. WP:REF gives lots of discretion though. As less important, extremely tedious quibbles: adding a "Retrieved on" (see WP:REF) to web references would be ideal if extremely tedious. Also, the date these references were created is present on at least some of the originals, that could be parenthesized. As a last tiny quibble, the "Lift up the Cross" paragraph is exactly duplicated in the Background and Recent History sections; I don't know if that's intentional. It's really quite good, my biggest issue is with the lack of pictures. skip (t / c) 14:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that help. I'll definitely check on those tips

1. I didnt know it repeated, haha. I can delete that easily. 2. I didnt know the 'retrieve' issue but it makes sense after reading that section. I'll try to get on that. 3. We can definitely look around for friends with pictures or on personal web pages.Destinvil 22:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, great work so far on the article. The new picture looks great, but it is not public domain. The source you provided lists it as licensed under CC by-nc-sa. This seems okay, but the image use policy says that non-commercial use only images aren't acceptable, even CC nc. I'm really not a copyright nut, but it's certainly going to come up eventually. It's a shame - the picture is quite good. By the way, is it Fenwick (per the filename) or Kane (per the caption) Hall? skip (t / c) 05:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I re-did the copyright since I actually picked wrong heading for it so it should be fine now. It's O'Kane Hall but I named wrong on my pictures list. I have a couple more public campus picks to upload at later time. Thanks againDestinvil 08:55, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]