Wikipedia:Peer review/Anglo-Italian Cup/archive1

Anglo-Italian Cup edit

Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • Watch peer review

This peer review discussion has been closed.

I've listed this article for peer review because I have recently expanded this article a lot and don't really have anything more to add so thought I'd see if I could make it a GA. I would also like feedback/help on things, the first is whether a piece of "trivia" is worthy of inclusion. In 1992-93, West Ham advanced from the prelim group on the toss of a coin after being level with Bristol Rovers on points & goals.[1] Two other things I think would be worthy of inclusion if true and they can be reliably sourced are that in the ~~first three competitions one point was awarded for each goal scored~~ and a modified version of the offside rule was used, both encouraging attacking football.^{Italian source (translated)} Also the same source and the RSSSF indicate that the 1976 tournament might have been the first to award 3 points for a win. Any opinions on these things, or other comments on the article will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude (talk · contribs)

Here's a few quick points to be going on with......

I see a lot of shortened team names, which should be written out in full. There's Wolves (should be Wolverhampton Wanderers), Derby (should be Derby County), Newcastle (should be Newcastle United) and Bath (should be Bath City). While teams might be colloquially referred to by these names, in an encyclopedia they should be shown in full -Done

The lead says that the competition was organised to compensate Swindon Town, but the body contradicts this and says that the tournament was formed after the first instalment of the A-I League Cup was a success, etc.

Yes I see what you mean, but this point is actually referenced. I can only guess that while the A-I League Cup was a one match super cup like event, this Anglo-Italian Cup was an actual tournament and more analogous to the Inter-Cities Cup, hence this also being compensation for it. I have references for both A-I & A-I League being formed to compensate Swindon, but obviously I can't put that in, so can you see a way round this? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The RSSSF page on the competition seems to suggest that both cups were set up as part of an overall scheme to reward Swindon. Presumably the powers that be decided to set up the A-I Cup at the start of the 1969-70 season to reward Swindon and then decided that just getting to take part in the tournament wasn't sufficient reward so they set up the A-I League Cup in which Swindon were guaranteed to get to the final, so to speak. That's OR of course, and to be honest I can't think how to better re-word the article to avoid, but as it stands there's a clear contradiction between the lead and the body, so it would need to be reworded to remove that..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the first sentence of "professional era", you don't actually mention that under any other circumstances the League Cup winners got to enter the Fairs Cup, so to the casual reader it is unclear why QPR missed out -Explained

"income to pay player's wages" - apostrophe is in the wrong place unless only one player was involved -Done

Don't wikilink Swindon twice in the same paragraph -Done

"Swindon were 3–0 after 63 minutes" - word "up" is missing -Done

"the two nations best ranked teams" - missing apostrophe

Done, I think. Am I right in thinking the teams belong to the nations, so it is "two nations' best ranked teams"? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"the match went into extra-time where" - extra time is not a place. It should be "extra-time, during which........" -Done

"as semi-professional tournament" - should be "as a semi-professional tournament" -Done

You note that during the semi-pro era there were several all-Italian finals, so it might be worth specifically stating that the final was no longer contested by the top team from each country

Done. All-Italian finals were only possible after the tournament went to a straight four team knockout format, I've hopefully clarified this. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"The competition was re-established in 1992–3" - should be 1992–93 -Done

Same for 1995–6 later Done

Hope those points help! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:40, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. I think I've now either addressed or replied to all of them. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As a successful GA football writer do you have any further comments in that respect? Thanks again, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I think you've covered everything, given that sources must be pretty thin on the ground...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]