Wikipedia:Peer review/Agrippina (opera)/archive1

Agrippina (opera) edit

A good article, this is not far off FA level, I think, and I'd like some general feedback on how to improve the article in all aspects. Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 16:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reads well. It covers history, style, and includes a good synopsis. Was the original performer for the part of Juno unknown--is that why the dash is there? Nothing jumps out to me needing improvement. Nice job. Antandrus (talk) 19:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- Yep, unknown. It's a delightful but easy aria, probably just some girl in the chorus who got to dress up for the day. Cheers, Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 19:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, APR _t 21:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some more links and linked the full date of first performance: still neeeds a copy-edit to get rid of redundancies, but that can wait for a bit. If I've never seen an opera infobox there probably isn't one. Anything else, anyone? Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 13:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should you mention what kind of orchestra it is scored for? Also, check out the Don Giovanni article. Note the way arias are mentioned in the Synopsis; and/or note the "List of famous arias" and "Media" near the bottom. Also, the Mozart, Puccini and Verdi operas all have a box listing the composer's operas, so that all of his opera articles are easily cross-linked. Not a bad idea and nifty looking. How about a photo from an album cover? -- Ssilvers 19:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll see if I can find the orchestration requirements. I've included some of the more important/interesting arias into the synopsis. Handel opera-box? Not a bad idea, I'll see what I can do. Cheers, Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 20:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK:

Do you need all of those references in the lead? Aren't they replicated somewhere down below? There really shouldn't be anything in the lead that you haven't covered later on in the article.
Is there an opera infobox you can add to the top?
- I don't think so, and I loathe infoboxes anyway.
The image of the title page of original printed edition and the image of Handel are probably better off swapped.
- Done.
All footnotes need to come after a punctuation mark (full stop, comma etc.). The people at FAC can get very anal about this, so you'll need to move many of them.
- Done. Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 19:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
When I have my bookmarks open, the roles section gets utterly screwed up. You may be better off converting it into a more conventional type of table.
You're very reliant on one reference work - have you tried finding other sources? Also, the reference to Britannica seems a bit strange - should encyclopedias be cited as a source?
- Added and cited some more stuff from Sawyer. Winton Dean is the daddy for Handelians, though. He's very good.
- Not ideal, but permitted per WP:RS. Britannica qualifies as high quality.
You have no external links or see also. Both would probably be good (links to similar operas? Articles on it's time period? Musical recording available online?).
- "See also" section done. Not sure if there are any really useful external links out there.
Your images are all on the right hand side. Ideally, they need to alternate.
- Done. Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 18:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I can think of at the moment. I'll take another look once you're done with that lot. Great article. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for the wonderful feedback. I'll get back to this later, but this is exactly the sort of stuff I was looking for. Cheers, Moreschi ^{Request a recording?} 17:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated comments (good work so far!): Info about orchestration; photo from the cover of an available recording; "most famous" arias; Background info about the original production: How did Handel get together with Grimani? How did they select the subject of the opera? How did they come to assemble such a stellar cast? And more info about the subsequent productions: Any more info about why it was not performed for over 200 years? Who revived it? Is it given frequently nowadays? Is it now one of his most famous? -- Ssilvers 20:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]