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North Carolina Transportation Museum

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Result: Delisted. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:35, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

1. The reference from https://www.nctrans.org which now redirects to https://www.nctransportationmuseum.org is the only reference for the Heritage railroad and Events sections but:
   1. It is the URL of the North Carolina Transportation Museum itself and is a primary source.
   2. The reference has a date of 2015 but the archived version is from 2007 (admittedly the archived URL could be removed) leaving it unclear what information was used for the reference.
   3. Neither the archived version links, archived versions from 2015 or 2016 or the current version supports the text with what is on the home page although it may have sub pages of the site may support it.
   4. The Heritage railroad section mentions events from 2016 and 2017 which is after the date of the only reference for the section.
2. The Steam and Diesel sections of the Collection have no references supporting them. (possibly replaceable by references in the Coleman book).
3. The Electric Boxcar reference comes from the page http://www.bera.org/pnaerc-orginfo.html which is a list of "Organizations Preserving North American Railway Cars" which has not been updated since 2006 (according to their page) and may be considered user generated as it asks for people to email the page owner.
4. The museum information reference is a press release from the museum and a primary source. (possibly replaceable by a reference in the Coleman book).
5. The North Carolina Department of Transportation - Awards: Railroad Depot and Roundhouse Renovations reference has some great information but is from the NCDOT which partnered with the NCTM for work so could be considered a primary reference.
6. There is also no real reference on the fact that the former Southern Railway's Spencer Shops is on the NRHP. I also wonder if other buildings are heritage listed.

Given the WP:CCI of the nominator for GA status and close paraphrasing that has been found in other recent GARs of their articles I am reluctant to try and solve the identified issues. I am not saying that there is any incorrect information in the article and the books Coleman, Alan (2018). North Carolina Transportation Museum. Charleston, South Carolina. ISBN 1-4671-2775-2. OCLC 1007842710.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link) and Galloway, Duane (1996). Southern Railway's Spencer shops : 1896-1996. Jim Wrinn. Lynchburg, Va.: TLC Pub. ISBN 1-883089-23-9. OCLC 36152758. may have enough information to support everything especially with some local news reports but absent some significant effort this article should be delisted.

I expect that someone could turn this into an amazing article with some effort as I suspect that the references are out there but it is not there yet.

I will be posting a message about this GAR on the Railways Wikiproject. Gusfriend (talk) 08:48, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Note: Southern Railway's Spencer Shops, another Doug promotion about the facility which houses this museum seems to suffer from some similar issues. -Indy beetle (talk) 10:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  That article is hilariously incomplete; it only discusses the building of the shops and gives nary a sentence to their more than 60 years of operations. I have started a GAR. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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