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The Thin Red Line

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Original – The Thin Red Line, an illustration by Harold H. Piffard from the magazine Canada in Khaki showing a line of red poppies separating the war and peace. Published in 1917–1919, Canada in Khaki featured war art reproductions, cartoons, military histories and personal recollections as a tribute to Canadian soldiers fighting in World War I.

Alt 1: Restoration. I can't find another copy, so I've used my judgement based on previous work on things like these, for example, that the upper left blue patch was an inking error (it looked very odd when you zoomed in). About as good as this is going to get, methinks.

Reason: In a curious military coincidence, this precedes The Thin Red Line and both films based on it. Excellent resolution.
Articles in which this image appears: Canada in Khaki, Harold H. Piffard, Remembrance Day, Remembrance poppy
FP category for this image: Artwork/Others
Creator: Harold H. Piffard

Support as nominator – Brandmeister^talk 21:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ for now. Text is bleeding through at the borders, some spots have blown highlights, and there's a spot where the paper moved away from the scanner which needs fixing. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:50, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional oppose per Chris. Can be switched if improvements are made. --Tremonist (talk) 13:41, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure whether I see all the stated defective spots, so maybe Adam Cuerden would be interested in this. Brandmeister^talk 20:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Scan's good enough, I think, to justify a restoration. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 01:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - The black shadow at the top left corner appears to be where the paper curved away from the scanner. I've seen the same thing in the books I've scanned. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Comparing it with the first upload [1] helps.... perhaps scan can be improved. Bammesk (talk) 00:54, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not a great scan of fairly poor quality print. While this may be the original format it was published in I don't think it has sufficient EV to make up for the lack of quality. - Wolftick (talk) 23:58, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Tremonist, Crisco 1402, Bammesk, Wolftick, and Brandmeister: Uploaded restoration as Alt 1; Support Alt Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 01:30, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Crisco 1492: as well, Crisco 1402 is his ancestor. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 01:32, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am a wizened man now, indeed. What about the lines along the top border? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:17, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Crisco 1492: You mean the colours at the top of the border? That's typical of this type of printing for border lines. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 03:46, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Adam. Considering it's a WWI stuff I think the print condition is ok. Brandmeister^talk 09:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean the part where the ink ran outside of the lines (that's fine). I meant that it appears there is some text / image bleed through along the top border. It's not present at the bottom. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, right. Subtle, but there. I'd say that was more dirt, or subtle shadows caused by the binding. It's easily removed. Give me a minute. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:06, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Crisco 1492: I've fixed it, methinks. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:39, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Original and Alt have darker shades in mid and upper left areas compared to the first upload [2]. Do we have a good scan? Bammesk (talk) 02:31, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Bammesk: From my experience with 1910s illustrations, the very pale text of the caption is evidence that the very light shades in the first upload is down to a bad, blurry scan. Dark blue is typical for a lot of illustrations in this period, a pale blue simply doesn't happen. I believe the original is simply a very bad scan (well, probably a bad photo) of the same exact source image. I'd say disregard it. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 02:57, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support ALT - Looks much nicer now. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:25, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT – Bammesk (talk) 03:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT - Godot13 (talk) 04:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT - --Janke | Talk 12:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:H. Piffard - The Thin Red Line - restoration.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 22:40, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]