Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Teyana Taylor discography/archive1
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Teyana Taylor discography edit
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- Nominator(s): Azealia911 talk 01:38, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This list documents the musical releases of American R&B singer Teyana Taylor, from her early 2012 mixtapes to her 2014 debut studio album. Thankyou for all constructive feedback / support in advance. Azealia911 talk 01:38, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose by shaidar cuebiyar
I believe the list does not meet the following three criteria:
- Prose: there are too many problems with expression. Three examples:
- "released her first official body of work, a mixtape entitled From a Planet Called Harlem," seems a long-winded way of saying "released her first mixtape, From a Planet Called Harlem,"
- Changed. Azealia911 talk
- "which spawned her breakout debut single "Google Me"" > "which provided her debut single "Google Me"" Reduce unencyclopaedic terms.
- Provided didn't sound right to me, I've switched 'spawned' to 'included'. Azealia911 talk
- 'included' is acceptable.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Provided didn't sound right to me, I've switched 'spawned' to 'included'. Azealia911 talk
- "The song went on to enter and peak on the US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart at number ninety." > "It debuted at its peak of number ninety on the US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart." Improve concision, also note a hard space between number and ninety.
- Changed. Azealia911 talk
- Have you checked for other expression problems, too? Three more examples:
- "featured on songs with the likes" > "featured on tracks by"
- "Taylor has spoken about her inspiration from fellow female musician Lauryn Hill, which was noted with the release of her second mixtape in 2012. The mixtape, entitled The Misunderstanding of Teyana Taylor," > "Taylor has described her inspiration by Lauryn Hill; Taylor's second mixtape, The Misunderstanding of Teyana Taylor (2012),"
- "labels" > "label's"
- There are more expression problems, fix them.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Lead: the inclusion criteria seem too broadly applied:
- The compilation album is not a compilation by the artist herself but it is a various artist album from her label, for which she appears as a featured artist on two tracks. Including this album for the artist is misleading.
- Which is exactly why I've started the sentance with "contributed to her labels compilation album". I have in no way claimed that it was Taylor's album, nor have I even claimed that she had a quintessential part in its making. The album provided her with the best charting song of her career (only not included in the lead because I cannot source it), it was a vital part of her career.
- Its misleading to the average reader due to its classification as a compilation album in the discography of Teyana Taylor: it is not her album. For a compilation album, both in the infobox and in its own subsection, I expect to see one of her works as a solo artist. Not an album where she has two appearances as a featured vocalist by various artists, which is charting largely due to contributions from those other artists. By listing it here the article is giving undue weight to her contribution to this album by apparently claiming it as a solo release in the infobox and wikitable (albeit not in the Lead's text).shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Which is exactly why I've started the sentance with "contributed to her labels compilation album". I have in no way claimed that it was Taylor's album, nor have I even claimed that she had a quintessential part in its making. The album provided her with the best charting song of her career (only not included in the lead because I cannot source it), it was a vital part of her career.
- Likewise the singles tally (also in the infobox) should only include the artist's solo singles.
- With what reasoning? There are a great number of featured discographies (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, some quick exaples) that factor in featured singles and/or promotional singles to their respective tallies. Azealia911 talk
- I am willing to concede this point, thanks for pointing out those FLs.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- With what reasoning? There are a great number of featured discographies (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, some quick exaples) that factor in featured singles and/or promotional singles to their respective tallies. Azealia911 talk
- I have another problem, the Lead has "One of her contributions to the album, "To the World",". AllMusic's David Jeffries cites the performers for this track as R. Kelly and Kanye West; Taylor is acknowledged for "Sin City" and "Bliss" only (see here) on this album. I want to see a reliable source for Taylor's singing role on "To the World". This also affects the Other charted songs wikitable.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comprehensiveness: Could you explain how this list qualifies as a Stand-alone list? The discography consists of only one studio album, one EP, two mixtapes and three singles as a solo artist. The content could be returned to the main article without need for a separate list.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- The MoS on page splits advises that "If the discography of an artist, group or work becomes disproportionately large in relation to the rest of the article, it should be split into a subpage list" Taylor's bio article is 21,581 bytes, while her discography article is 26,643 bytes. Merging the content of this article would increase the size of the page by over 100% and make the discography section more than double the length of the entire biographical prose. Let's remember that the discography nor the bio have to be exponentially long, but according to the MoS, the discography must be disproportionately large to the biographical article. Standing at it's size, I think that this is more than the case. Azealia911 talk
- Certainly some editing would be needed to return her discography back to her page, similar to its form back in September this year (see here). Such editing would make the return of the discography a lot less than 26,643 bytes: remember that redundancies and other material would be reduced, too.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- The MoS on page splits advises that "If the discography of an artist, group or work becomes disproportionately large in relation to the rest of the article, it should be split into a subpage list" Taylor's bio article is 21,581 bytes, while her discography article is 26,643 bytes. Merging the content of this article would increase the size of the page by over 100% and make the discography section more than double the length of the entire biographical prose. Let's remember that the discography nor the bio have to be exponentially long, but according to the MoS, the discography must be disproportionately large to the biographical article. Standing at it's size, I think that this is more than the case. Azealia911 talk
Thankyou for your comments. Azealia911 talk 23:12, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- More improvements are still required.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:02, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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