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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 15:14, 28 February 2009 [1].

Sigur Rós discography

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Nominator(s): Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)
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I think this meets the criteria. Thanks in advance for taking a look. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural note The nominator is in the WikiCup. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Rambo's Revenge (talk · contribs)

Resolved comments by Rambo's Revenge (talk · contribs)
Not usually a discog man, but as it's a band I like...
  • "and sold only 313 copies" -> "and sold only 313 copies in its first year of release"
  • Done
  • "Von brigði was released in 1998 and featured remixes of tracks from Von. Only one track, "Leit af lífi" is new to the album.[4]", sounds funny using "was" and "is" talking about the same thing -> Only one track on the album, "Leit af lífi", was new.
  • Done - It was only released at one time, which is why I used "was", but "Leit af lífi" has only ever appeared on that album. As the album physically exists, I thought present tense should be used. But you're right, it does ready odd.
  • "Kjartan Sveinsson joined the band in 1998, playing keyboards", should keyboards be plural. I realise some synth stuff is played on multiple keyboards at once but thought I'd check.
  • Done
  • "It reached Number 1 on Icelandic album chart", -> on the
  • Done
  • "We Play Endlessly" the discog box says 1999 -> 2009. Also I'd possibly mention this remix in the lead for completeness (as you mentioned the other one).
  • Done (the date). I haven't added anything to the Lede because it was just a free giveaway in The Independent newspaper, nothing particularly notable about it otherwise.
  • Music video: I believe it is Svefn-g-englar not "Svefn-G-Englar"
  • Done

I haven't done enough discog reviews to know about style issues and what charts should be used in the list and when. So all I will say is that it looks good to an untrained eye. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've addressed them all, I hope. Thanks for looking. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd remove "Sigur Ros" & "post-rock" from the ==See also== section seeing as they are both in the first line of the lead. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done
  • Singles-2003: "Untitled #1", the lead and ==Music Video== use "untitled #1" – consistency. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

  • Ref 19: "HitParad" -> HitParade?
  • Not Done - HitParad for Sweden, HitParade for Switzerland
  • Ref 39: publisher The Mill links to a disambig page
  • Done
  • Ref 40: Two redlinks
  • Not Done - Someone may or may not create them in the future. I have no interest in doing so at this time.

Otherwise they look good. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

Lead
  • I'm not an expert on music or discographies, by why aren't (bass) and other related terms stated as "(bassist)"? In the sentence Sigur Rós was formed in 1994 in Reykjavík, Iceland, by singer Jón Þór Birgisson (guitar and vocals), Georg Hólm (bass) and Ágúst Ævar Gunnarsson (drums).
  • Done
  • Sigur Rós released their debut album, Von in 1997 on Smekkleysa Records. | (1)comma after the album title (2)Is on _____ Records stated correctly, isn't it like "with _____ Records"?
  • Done
  • Only one track, "Leit af lífi" was new to the album. | Comma after the song name.
  • Done
Albums
  • Why does the certifications list ISL and not IFPI?
  • Because it's for the country, not the whole of Europe. The IFPI is the BPI/RIAA for many European countries, but each country has it's own subsidiary. I was told to do this in a previous discog FLC where I previously had them displayed as IFPI (Iceland), IFPI (Germany) BPI (UK), etc.
  • Oh okay, thanks for clarifying that.--<TRUCO> 503 14:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The 2009 compilation album needs verification in some way, [a ref on its title to verify the details and its name].
    • As do the Remixes, EPs, and Soundtrack albums.
    • As well as the singles which did not chart.
  • I know it's striked but I thought I'd answer anyway. Their physical existance can verify its title etc.
  • Okay, thank you, I will keep that in mind for future discographies.--<TRUCO> 503 14:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Directors
  • What's verifying the final 2008 music video director?
  • Dammit, I had it.. I'll find it again. Tomorrow though.
  • Take your time =) [less than 10 days of course =P].--TRUCO 14:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess you couldn't find it?--TRUCO 00:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
References
  • What Rambo stated is what I also found.
  • Replied above.
  • Checks out fine, except about his point on consistency with untitled and Untitled.--<TRUCO> 503 14:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--<TruCo> 503 18:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC) Thanks! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments by JD554 (talk · contribs)
*Von brigði was released in 1998 and featured remixes of tracks from Von: The album still exists, so this should be features.
  • Done
  • Keyboardist Kjartan Sveinsson joined the band in 1998 and a year later... would be more consistent with how the other band members are introduced.
  • Done
  • "untitled #1 (a.k.a. Vaka)" isn't the title of the song. It should be "untitled #1" (a.k.a. "Vaka") in both the lead and the singles table.
  • Done
  • Number is capitalised in quite a few places where it shouldn't be.
  • Done
  • In the various albums tables, change Vinyl to LP (wikilink first instance to LP album).
  • Done
  • Where Digital download isn't the first item in the list it shouldn't be capitalised.
  • Done
  • EMI doesn't need to be wikilinked in the compilations albums table as it has already been done in the studio albums table.
  • Done
  • The We Play Endlessly and Rímur entries should have Format: rather than Formats:
  • Done
  • Change Chart peak positions to Peak chart positions throughout.
  • Done
  • In the soundtrack albums table, change Released on to Released:
  • Done
  • "Leit Að Lífi" (Remix): Remix shouldn't be capitalised unless it's part of the track title, in which case it should be within the quotes.
  • There looks to be a lot of overlinking in the references. Just one example is Allmusic being wikilinked every time when it should only be the first time.
    • I don't think WP:Overlink applies to refs, as no-one reads through the references, but they are targeted to a specific reference where the information probably should be linked. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's a point well made and I agree, they aren't all read through like prose, but dipped in to and out of as the case may be. I wish I thought of that at one of my past GANs! --JD554 (talk) 13:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know the redlinks have already been mentioned, but if you don't want to create stubs it would be better to unlink (but this isn't a deal breaker).
  • I'm not sure. If they are created later, they will turn blue. If they are removed the incentive to create them is removed too.
  • For the second official website in the external links, can you clarify the second one to official UK site, otherwise it looks odd there being what looks like two identical external links.
  • Done

Looks like it's going to be another great discog. --JD554 (talk) 12:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 19:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just needs a citation for that uncited music video director mentioned by Truco and I'll be able to support. --JD554 (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Additional comments from JD554
  • Checking through the references for the music videos and, with the exception of "Svefn-g-englar", none of the references confirm Sigur Ros as directors, including the new one you added. --JD554 (talk) 08:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The link for reference #4 doesn't confirm the chart positions. Is there some instruction missing from the reference?
    • Even though this reference has been changed, it still isn't a direct link to verify the positions. Further instructions seem to be necessary. See reference #20 at The Cure discography for how this is done on other discographies. --JD554 (talk) 09:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference #19 doesn't confirm Sigur Ros guesting on the track Dot.
  • The ref verifies the album's existence. The album sleeve confirms their appearance, but I can't cite that, as a photo would be a primary source. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why are there two references for the The Loch Ness Kelpie soundtrack? #24 on its own would seem to be sufficient. --JD554 (talk) 09:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment

Just a matter of preference, but considering that everything (chart positions/certifications) is referenced in the body of the article, I think you can remove them from the lead to enhance readability. Also, stuff like record labels and the names of the singles released from an album, don't need referencing at all. indopug (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 19:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • "but was certified Platinum in 2005 by Iceland's record industry association." 1)Why the capitalization of "Platinum"? 2)Could we know the name of the record industry assn?
  • "It comprises eight untitled tracks divided by a 36-second silence." Not sure what is meant here, is it between each song?
  • The silence is between tracks 4 and 5. Any ideas on how to rephrase?
  • Why not separate the info about the silence into another sentence? Dabomb87 (talk) 00:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was certified Gold in Iceland" Why the caps?
  • Done

Sources

  • Spell out abbreviations in the publishers such as BPI.
  • Done
  • It is authorised by the Icelandic music people to publish the charts. It is also a retailer, selling mp3, aac, wmp versions of songs. See also http://tonlist.com. It's also listed here
  • " HitParad.se." Should it be " HitParade.se."? Dabomb87 (talk) 00:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks very nice, happy to support. One more thing, partly my fault: ICE looks kinda weird, doesn't it? What about ICL? Also, do you know of a way to lessen the space between BEL and (FL)? I dunno, both are up to you, they both just look a little funky to me. Great work though! Drewcifer (talk) 08:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from Drewcifer

Comment Looks pretty good. A few minor comments:

  • What does "VLA" stand for? Is this an abbreviation for the Flemish region? Is there an abbreviation you could use that would be more familiar for an English-speaker such as myself that's not all that knowledgeable about the reason? The same goes for the ISL abbreviation. I realize this is the common abbreviation in the region, but it's not based on the country's English name. Something like ICE or ICL would be clearer for english-readers, since this is an English-wiki. The rationale for this is further explained at MOS:DISCOG. For instance we tend to abbreviate Switzerland as SWI, not CH, as they do in Switzerland itself.
  • It was being used for the Flemish region (Vlaamse Gewest), I have now changed it to the ISO 3166-2:BE code VLG, which is probably what I was going for in the first place.
  • I've seen and used BEL (FL) before, which is clearer. --JD554 (talk) 09:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm aware of the ISO standards, and that they are more encyclopedic, but they are not as user-friendly to many English-users. People familiar with the region will know what you're talking about, whether they speak English or not, but those who aren't will not (i.e. me). I believe standards of clarity and ease of use are most important here. Drewcifer (talk) 04:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The list needs some general references, just to verify the broad information like labels, release dates, formats, etc. An allmusic link and a link to the band's homepage usually does it for me.
  • The Sigur Ros entry at Allmusic is in the External links. So are the two official homepages.
  • I see that, but they are not in the references section, therefore you're not saying "this information is from here". What you're saying is "hey, check this out too." In the interest of transparency of all the info, general references are very useful, whether or not they appear in the external links section or not. Drewcifer (talk) 04:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The column-headings only need to be linked once. There's two tables back to back that have roughly the same headings, and roughly the same wikilinks. Drewcifer (talk) 16:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved stuff from Cannibaloki

Comments

  • Nope. The correct name is "Smekkleysa Records", not "Smekkleysa", and not Bad Taste. In all honesty, the article should probably be moved.
  • Formats
  • Which ones? It's "Format" where there is only one format, and "Formats" where there is more than one.
  • Done both
  • You have created a section with the name of "DVDs", which makes it confusing and redundant when you wrote in the field format: "DVD" (again?).
  • Done

Cannibaloki 02:57, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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