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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 21:09, 9 March 2014 [1].

List of songs recorded by Miley Cyrus edit

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Nominator(s): WikiRedactor (talk) 18:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

After giving this page a full revamping, I believe that it now meets the criteria for featured list status, and will compliment the existing featured list Miley Cyrus discography nicely. It is a fully-comprehensive list with all of Cyrus' published tracks, including those on her studio albums, those on her soundtrack albums, and those in which she is featured. All song credits are sourced with the liner notes of the appropriate album, or when not applicable, reputable external sources. With Cyrus' last full-length record released nearly four months ago, there is a good chance that this list will not be significantly expanded in the near future; when she releases another project, this list will be easy enough to update with the necessary information due to its simple internal formatting. WikiRedactor (talk) 18:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from WonderBoy1998
  • I hink I better picture should be chosen for the lead, focusing more on Cyrus' face since seeing this at first glance one might not recognise her
  • Done
  • Doesn't this list seem to different from other recorded songs list, like Rihanna's. I've seen various lists regarding the subject and they seem radically different from this one. I am going to be needed to be convinced that this format is suitable to move forward with my comments. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looking at List of songs recorded by Rihanna, it appears that the only major differences are the inclusion of pictures and an expanded introduction, which I will get to improving momentarily. I will also add the color key noting whether or not a track has been released as a single.
  • @WonderBoy1998: I've expanded the introduction, which now mentions Cyrus' chart successes and gives more detail about some of her records. I also added the color coding that distinguishes singles from non-singles, although I felt that the amount of pictures that the Rihanna list had was mildly excessive, considering that the table is already packed with information as it stands. If you would really like some more pictures added, then I will gladly do so!
Indeed it is in much better shape now. Good choice of picture too. Some points though-
  • "performed by Cyrus, which are credited to Hannah Montana" - How about turning "which are" to "who is credited as Hannah Montana" or " eight of its thirteen tracks were performed by Cyrus under the alias/name of Hannah Montana"
  • Done
  • Putting the main emphasis on commercial performance of the singles makes it seem like an XYZ singles disocgraphy. An articles on recorded songs should spotlight writing/production teams, new collaborators etc. Such as "Adopting a more hip-hop oriented musical style in 2013, Cyrus appeared on various XYZ tracks by XYZ rap artists etc" (I may not be factually correct) but you get the point I hope. I don't want to make you continuously change and add but I am very much ready to support this after this change is made :) --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • No worries, I do what I need to do to make sure that the list is in tip-top shape! I added a paragraph at the end of the introduction which gives a summary of her most popular collaborators and musical styles; if you'd like me to add more, I certainly will!
Certainly worthy now, hence I support. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 05:49, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! WikiRedactor (talk) 16:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much! WikiRedactor (talk) 16:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead should only include one picture. For me, I prefer the latest picture of Cyrus (the 2013 People's Choice Awards attending)
  • Done
  • The iTunes sources for single release should include an en-dash, not a normal dash
  • Done
  • Add !scope="row" before the song titles per WP:ACCESS
  • Done

— Simon (talk) 05:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Aaron
Resolved comments by Aaron
Comments from Aaron
  • The following is an alphabetised list → This is superfluous information
  • Done
  • She first established her presence → Awkward phrasing, she's not royalty.
  • Done
  • Done
  • The fourth paragraph is completely irrelevant. This is a list about songs recorded by Cyrus only.
  • My idea was that instead of writing something like "Song X was written by Songwriter X, Song Y was written by Songwriter X" that it might flow better to have a paragraph at the end that summarizes her main collaborators on these tracks, because she worked with a lot of the same people for a while. Do you have any ideas on how to maybe spread this information throughout the other three paragraphs?f
  • I'd do what I've done on my lists and mentioned the writers and/or genre of the songs I mention, not the decisions behind the collaboration or how they came to collaborate, if people want that kind of info then they should look on the single or album article. This list should encompass singles as well as non-singles, as it is just about recorded songs.  — ₳aron 18:36, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you take a look at the revised introduction? I think it's much more balanced now that I've added in more information about songwriters and non-singles, but I just want to make sure that the little bits of information that I did keep about genres and backstories aren't too excessive.
  • The table of songs itself is absolutely huge, as in size of proportion. It's so incredibly wide, mainly due to writers all being on one line.
  • Done
  • The contents table says "2 4 7 #", but it you sort the Song column, "#GETITRIGHT" sorts first.
  • Done
  • You've changed the content table, when the songs table is norma, it still appears as 23, then #GETITRIGHT, then 7 Things. #GETITRIGHT needs to be physically moved to be the first song in the table, the same way as when it sorts when you press the sort button. — ₳aron 18:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • In fact, the article is called "Get It Right (Miley Cyrus song)", so it should be written as such in this table, with a note added to it saying that it is stylised as #GETITRIGHT.  — ₳aron 18:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe two separate tables, "As Miley Cyrus" and "As Hannah Montana" might be better here.
  • Done
  • I think you need to look at the lists for Katy Perry and Adele for some stylistic help.

 — ₳aron 11:17, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I tried to pull some ideas from the Katy Perry list (adding some pictures, mentioning some record label switches, etc.) Aside from the one point that I have a question for you about, I hope that I've addressed your critiques to your satisfaction. Thanks for stopping by and leaving comments! WikiRedactor (talk) 17:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I know how time consuming it is to make one of these lists and I can see you have put the time into it.  — ₳aron 11:38, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


  • This list is very well constructed and following a thorough analysis of the article itself, I have no further issues to address. It certainly deserves FL status for being a comprehensive list. I give my Support. Prism △ 11:32, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • No singles were released under the name of Hannah Montana? I just noticed that the list has been forked into two tables, and while the Cyrus section has the green colour coding to denote singles, the Montana one doesn't. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 11:10, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think using the term "single" for most of the Hannah songs is questionable; most of their articles have unsourced release dates, and most of them that do list a "source" only show that the song was made available with the parent album. None of them were pushed to radio either in the United States, which leaves only "The Best of Both Worlds", "Nobody's Perfect", and (somehow) "Ordinary Girl" as sourced, official Hannah singles. This has now been added to the list, thank you! WikiRedactor (talk) 15:39, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seems like the list has improved a LOT since it was nominated. I really like how it looks now, so a pure Support from me. ^_^ — Tomíca(T2ME) 12:17, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: (having stumbled here from my FLC discussion page). The list page is well formatted with good tabular structure. Meticulously sourced throughout. I particularly like the fact that the footnotes are given backed up with inline-citations, and that the intro lede section is so well grounded with background info for the reader and well-cited as well. Excellent quality improvement efforts, — Cirt (talk) 03:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Adabow (talk) 00:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
*Single cells are missing their daggers, per MOS:COLOUR.
  • Done
  • Single released are unsourced.
  • Done
    • The refs for "Fly on the Wall" and "Start All Over" don't verify their single releases. Adabow (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Whoops, these new ones should do the trick!

*I'm getting a bit pedantic here, but surely Cyrus released songs as Hannah Montana, but didn't record them as HM. Unless she recorded them all on the TV show...

  • Done
  • The lead is quite, quite long. Could some of the less notable/interesting stuff be trimmed off?
  • Done
  • Images are all OK.

Adabow (talk) 09:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Right you are, I didn't realize that was an actual single and not just the Disney definition of a single! WikiRedactor (talk) 21:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lastly (I hope), Titles and Artists should be sorted using {{sortname}} so that Arists are sorted by surname and titles are sorted correctly (e.g. "The Driveway" under 'D', not 'T'). Adabow (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done
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