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The list was promoted 07:02, 6 April 2008.

List of Seinfeld episodes

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I believe the list has finally reached a point that it's well formatted, and easily accessable for changes. Information that needs to be cited is.Gman124 (talk) 00:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: We have decided on consensus that there can be no non-free/fair-use media on lists. Please remove those (completely unnecessary anyway) logos from the article immediately. I'd even say logos like those in no way satisfy fair-use criterion on Wikipedia and should be deleted. The lead is too stubby; combine the small paragraphs into bigger ones that read well together. Why don't you include the image in this article in the lead? indopug (talk) 05:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's correct. Wikipedia:Featured list criteria #3 states "It has images if they are appropriate to the subject, with succinct captions or "alt" text and acceptable copyright status. Non-free content (fair use) images must pass the non-free content criteria." That would imply fair use images are allowed. Granted, I didn't see it before you posted this comment so I don't know if there were too many or rationales weren't included, but purely for my own reference, can you point me to where this consensus exists? -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 21:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would go with Indopug's comments as well. Another idea for a suitable image could be the complete series boxset, although you have to remember to include the fair use rationale. ISD (talk) 14:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the logos. Gman124 (talk) 14:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
added some more references to the lead and removed the unnecessary reference. Gman124 (talk) 19:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
removed those two notes. Gman124 (talk) 14:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Resolved comments from Matthew
  • Per WP:LEAD, there should be no wikilinking. Move the link to the next use of "Seinfeld".
  • The bolding of "Seinfeld" should also be itallicised.
  • "Seinfeld was a 'show about nothing,' similar to the self-parodying 'show within a show' of Season 4 episodes "The Pilot, Part 1" and "Part 2"." — "Show about nothing" needs a reference as it's a quote. Further explaination of this and "show within a show" is also needed. I don't think Season needs capitalising either.
  • Is there a reference for The Seinfeld Chronicles?
 DoneGman124 (talk) 17:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The fact that "it was soon picked up for a full season order" needs referencing
  • "The first season is the considered smallest sitcom order in television history" — I would double-check that. Many shows in the UK for example have only 5 or 6 episodes per season (series in British English)
  • I don't know if it's yet another IE7 issue, but "Production code" in the table headers isn't centered like the others are.
  • If the cast and crew credit "The Kiss Hello" as the 100th episode, I'd make the table show that by removing the "Highlights Shows". To me, anyway, they seem like they belong in a separate "Special episodes" section after season 9, along with "The Clip Show, Part 1"
    • On that note, where do these episodes exist in DVD releases and in syndication reruns?
on the Seinfeld site it says that The Clip show is in Discs 3 or 4 in season 9 see here, however the season six episode Highlights show is also named the clip show on season six dvd see here Gman124 (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The plot summaries vary in length from one sentence to 6 or 7. Either some of the larger ones should be reduced, or the shorter ones expanded, or both.
  •  Done the summaries were removed and moved to season pages. Gman124 (talk) 21:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The following contractions exist: doesn't, doesn't, isn't, can't, doesn't, can't, doesn't, wasn't, don't, doesn't, doesn't, doesn't, isn't, can't, if these are outside of quotations or episode titles, they should be expanded.
  • Avoid using Amazon as a reference as it's a sales site. TVShowsOnDVD.com is good for US release information. As for Region 2 or 4, try to find maybe old magazine or newspaper articles or reviews giving a release date.
  • TV.com isn't a reliable source for production codes as that information is edited by anybody just like Wikipedia. (Usually production codes appear on the last frame of closing credits)
  • Use {{main}} or {{see also}} and link to each season article.
 Done added {{main}} and link to each season article. Gman124 (talk) 14:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's it for now.

  • More
  • The tables and each column within should have their widths forced so they all align with each other.
 Done fixed width of the tables. Gman124 (talk) 15:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Shading the table headers a similar colour to the DVD boxes would help spark it up a little. Just don't make it look too pretty or like a Skittlepedia.
 Done added colors to header tables just like the other featured articles. Gman124 (talk) 15:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • An image might be good too. Is there a massive box set that's been released containing all the seasons, or maybe a screengrab of the intertitles

-- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 20:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done added image. Gman124 (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
removed those two notes. Gman124 (talk) 14:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support All concerns addressed. Meets the criteria. One thing though, the column width for the writers is very wide, even wider than the title's itself. It'd look more presentable if the directors' and writers' columns were the same width and <br /> the second writer onto another line. It's not that big of a deal though. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 17:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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