Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Megadeth band members

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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 01:20, 25 March 2009 [1].

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List of Megadeth band members

Nominator(s): Cannibaloki

I am nominating this for featured list because after a peer review, I found the negative points to be improved, then resolved all to meet at least the FLC criteria. Cannibaloki 18:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Resolved review by Truco

Review by Truco (talk · contribs) Lead Slayer guitarist Kerry King covered a handful of live dates while a permanent replacement was sought. -- IDK, but in my eyes, handful is a bit pov-ish. Removed. This lineup was extremely short-lived and after just a few shows in 1984, Lee Rausch was replaced by jazz fusion drummer Gar Samuelson, and also added second guitarist Chris Poland. -- now extremely is just straight-forward POV, if you remove it it will still keep the sentence meaning Removed too. After years of problems stemming from substance abuse, Mustaine fired both Poland and Samuelson before the recording of the band's third album; they were replaced by Jeff Young and Chuck Behler, respectively. -- what was their third album? Added; So Far, So Good... So What! Members I just find it odd that there are no citations in this section, although they are in the lead, I'm guessing there should be some citations here to verify the info.--₮RUCӨ 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC) Done. Cannibaloki 04:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

• Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards.--₮RUCӨ 14:16, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Support My concerns have been addressed. Looks good. Drewcifer (talk) 06:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment Looks really good. Only one question: what makes hardradio.com and bravewords.com reliable sources? Drewcifer (talk) 11:25, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

They are reliable since they are interviews, the publishers may not be reliable, but the work (which is the actual band members) is reliable.--₮RUCӨ 14:16, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

See Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles, and HardRadio is just used for an interview that I found only in this site. Cannibaloki 15:11, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

• "Lee Rausch was replaced....and also added...." - Lee Rausch did not add Poland, so this sentence is gramatically incorrect
  • Reworded.
• "October that same year" - doesn't read right to me (I'd say "October of the same year") but might be an ENGVAR thing - can you confirm if this wording is a valid American English usage....?
  • Reworded.
• "who officially joined Megadeth in February 1990" - think you could dispense with the second "Megadeth", as it was only used in the previous clause and it's pretty obvious that's the band he joined
  • Done.
• "Megadeth enlisted guitarist Al Pitrelli, as Friedman's replacement" - no need for comma after Pitrelli
  • Done.
• The two sentences beginning "Following nearly a year of recovery" are unsourced
  • Added.
• "brother to new guitarist" - again, is this a valid American English usage? In the UK we'd say "brother of"
  • Reworded.
• Why are the titles of two of the refs in italics?
  • {{Cite press release}} Cannibaloki 15:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

All looks good other than this -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Made one tiny punctuation tweak, but all seems alright now. I'd never come across the press release tl, but I guess it must be OK. Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) "After guitarist/vocalist Dave Mustaine was fired from Metallica, he formed Megadeth in 1983, along with bassist David Ellefson, guitarist Greg Handevidt, and drummer Dijon Carruthers." A bit abrupt for the opening sentence. Why not start with the more contextual "Megadeth is an American heavy metal band..."? "demo featuring "-->demo that featured "and after just a few shows in 1984" "along with second guitarist Chris Poland." So did Poland replace somebody or was he replaced? Not clear. "1985 tour promoting Megadeth's debut," Would "Megadeth's 1985 debut" work? "musical differences."-->"musical differences". "replaced just five days before" "MacDonough parted ways" Can you use a different phrase than "parted ways", you already used it once. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC) Doing... Cannibaloki 22:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC) All done. Cannibaloki 00:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

• HardRadio should not be italicized.
• Can you link the publishers on their first occurence? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment I think these members list pages would look more organized and easier to read if they used a table. Maybe something like:

Member	Years active	Instruments	# of releases	Release contributions
Dave Mustaine	1983–2002 2004–present	guitar, vocals		All Megadeth releases
Shawn Drover	2004–present	drums, percussion	2	That One Night: Live in Buenos Aires (2007), United Abominations (2007)
James LoMenzo	2006–present	bass, backing vocals	1	United Abominations (2007)
Chris Broderick	2008–present	guitar, backing vocals	0	None

The # of releases column is optional. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Doing... Cannibaloki 22:22, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. Cannibaloki 01:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Support: It looks way different to other FL of band members, but I must accept is one of the most complete as well. The style used in this list is the most proper one, due to the high number of members.  Rockk3r Spit it Out! 04:37, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Excellent. My only concern is the stacking of images in the lead and the second table should be sortable by last name. In regards to the first issue, you could do the current images table like this:

Name		Years active	Instruments	Release contributions
	Dave Mustaine	1983–2002, 2004 onward	guitar, vocals	All Megadeth releases
	Shawn Drover	2004 onward	drums, percussion	That One Night: Live in Buenos Aires (2007), United Abominations (2007)
	James LoMenzo	2006 onward	bass, backing vocals	United Abominations (2007)
	Chris Broderick	2008 onward	guitar, backing vocals	none

If you decide to do it, you may want to make the images less tall. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

What is the problem with the "stacking" of images? Cannibaloki 16:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

It collides with the table, leaving unnecessary whitespace. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 16:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

See again, please. Cannibaloki 16:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

"...the second table should be sortable by last name." Done. Cannibaloki 15:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, unless someone has a very, very wide screen, there's no blank space now.  Rockk3r Spit it Out! 18:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Okay, that will work with the images. Has there been any negative response to the new table format? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:56, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
  • What format? Overall or the last one with images? Cannibaloki 17:04, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
    • I was just wondering if anyone has complained about the table format or not. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 18:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
      • Okay with the tables. "See yourself!" ;) Cannibaloki 20:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Try finding a Shawn Drover picture with the same format as theother three.  Rockk3r Spit it Out! 23:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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