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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 07:11, 8 July 2008 [1].

List of IIHF World Under-20 Championship medalists edit

I had intended to nominate this one more than a week ago, but then completely forgot about it. I'm going away on the 28th, so Maxim will address all concerns after that date. -- Scorpion0422 16:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "pools - divisions I, II and III - that" should use em dashes per WP:DASH
  • "the 'Top Division', from" → "the "Top Division", from"

Gary King (talk) 17:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done and done, thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 19:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

  • Does "Top Division" need any quote marks?
    • It's an unofficial name yet commonly used name, so it need the quotation marks. --Maxim.
  • space between period and Ref 1
    • Done. --Maxim.
  • "voting 7-1", "leading 4-2" Ndash
    • Done. --Maxim.
  • Gold, silver and bronze images are, IMHO, unnecessary clutter. What do they add that the words "gold", "silver" and "bronze" and the coloured cells don't?
    • They add instant visual identification. I don't see it as clutter, and I tried removing the gold/silver/bronze and coloured stuff and looked awkward, and monotonous with the other cells. --Maxim.

Nice otherwise. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • References 6 and 7 should be formatted as footnotes so the statements can be referenced correctly. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can you please rephrase that? I have no clue of what you want to be done. Maxim(talk) 16:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • In the three spots where you currently have ref 6 placed, you would put

      {{ref label|CanadaSoviet|α|α}}

      then in the references or a Footnotes section, you would put

      {{note label|CanadaSoviet|α|α}}During the final game of the tournament, Canada and the Soviet Union became engaged in a bench-clearing brawl while Canada was leading 4–2. Consequentially, the game was cancelled and both teams were disqualified. While the Soviets were out of medal contention, Canada was playing for the gold medal and was guaranteed at least a bronze.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/backgrounder-world-juniors.html |title=Backgrounder–2008 World Junior Hockey Championship|publisher=[[Canadian Broadcasting Corporation|CBC Sports]]|accessdate=2008-06-11|author=Doug Harrison}}</ref><ref>{{cite news | title = Team Canada > National Junior Team > History | publisher = [[Hockey Canada]]| url = http://www.hockeycanada.ca/3/5/6/7/index1.shtml |accessdate=2008-06-12}}</ref>

      This will put the statement in a footnote, and the references will appear correctly like[6]. I've actually done this one, so you need to do the same for reference 7. Put

      {{ref label|Host|β|β}}

      where ref 7 is currently placed, and then in a footnotes section, put

      {{note label|Host|α|α}}Canada will host the tournament every 3 or 4 years. In 1990 Canada decided to switch years with Finland.

      This can then be referenced as usual. The Greek letters can be changed to Latin letters, just don't make them numbers because it'll get confused with real references. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 18:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Should the title be Under-20 per WP:DASH?
    • " It is traditionally held in late December, ending in the beginning of January. " - "...held from late December to the beginning of January." may sound better?
      • Done.
    • You have citations in the lead. But nothing for the first paragraph at all.
      • I added a reference.
    • I think we're currently not linking individual years - can you check that at WP:DATE?
    • "bench clearing" needs a hyphen but is a bit jargony all the same.
      • I reworded that part
    • Shouldn't Canada and Soviet Union link to their hockey teams?
    • "two handed" - hyphenation?
      • Done.
    • Fin, Cze and Swe aren't linked. Be consistent.
      • I removed the wikilinks above, so it is more consistant.
    • Can you move [3] somewhere nice per WP:CITE?
      • Done.
    • "three to four years." 3 or 4?
      • I actually decided to remove the sentence.
    • "a total of 11" - a total of is redundant.
      • Done.
    • Can both tables have the same col widths?
      • Okay.
    • When sorting by country, say, Canada goes (1), (10), (11), ..., (2), (3)... etc. I'd expect to see (1), (2), (3).. etc
      • It has been fixed.
    • TSN.ca vs (linked) TSN.
    • Same point with IIHF.com.
      • I have made everything consistant.
    • Why are title's in quotations?
      • Where?

    • The Rambling Man (talk) 18:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 19:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, please move the title so there's a hyphen: "Under-20 ...".
      • Fixed.
    • Great pic, but I don't get the info-page justification: if this copyrighted image "has been released by a company or organization to promote ...", why does it have to be "of low resolution", etc? Something's fishy here. Where's the proof of release?
      • Can you please rephrase this? I don't understand what you mean.
        • I'm second guessing Tony's comment here but I suspect in a roundabout kind of a way he's querying the fair use rationale of the image. The template says it's an image "...that has been released by a company or organization to promote their work or product in the media, such as advertising material or a promotional photo in a press kit..." but the source doesn't point to Team Canada's website, it goes to a Canadian TV channel where the image has "Photo: SAMUEL KUBANI/AFP/Getty Images" underneath. I'm guessing the use of this kind of image would require permission through OTRS and fair use wouldn't cut it. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • OTRS would make it a "free" image; instead, this image is being claimed as fair use. I think Scorpion picked a misleading template, which I fixed. Hope it's better now. Maxim(talk) 16:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Don't link individual years: MOS breach.
      • Fixed.
    • "Soviet Union/Russia and Canada"—no links in the main text, please. See WP:CONTEXT.
      • Fixed.
    • Why not spell out "TBD" instead of linking it first time? I'd de-blue the second and third columns in "Future tournaments".
      • I left Ottawa in as a link, it hasn't appeared before. All others fixed.

    TONY (talk) 08:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Support. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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