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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 01:00, 25 February 2009 [1].

List of Australian George Cross recipients

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Nominator(s): Abraham, B.S. (talk) 12:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria. I launched this list into the main space about a week ago after several days of construction in my sandbox, during which time I have received technical support and guidence from Woody (of which I am very greatful) and the list has also just passed an A-Class Review by Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. Any and all comments welcome. Thanks, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 12:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the two remaining redlinks should be filled out within the next few days. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 12:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Meets the criteria. It is a well organized list, the lead section introduces the subject very well, and refs are reliable. AdjustShift (talk) 13:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

  • In an official broadcast on 23 September 1940, King George VI announced his decision to establish the awards of the George Cross and George Medal to recognise individual acts of bravery by the civilian population. -- This broadcast was what? A newscast?
  • The George Cross was replaced by the new award, the Cross of Valour, which was created by letters patent within the Commonwealth of Australia and its Territories on 14 February 1975. -- I'm not sure if Territories is like the US and states, but does it need to be capitalized?
    • I believe so, yes. In all official documents when Australian is addressed in such a mannor it is capitalized. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 22:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The only thing that stands out in the table is the date (or year) in which the awards were awarded. --TRUCO 22:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure what you would like me to do in this instance. The whole table stands out to me on my screen. Thanks for the comments. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 22:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I suppose I could make the recipient's names bold in the list, if that would help. Thoughts? Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 22:40, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • No no, what I meant was that the table doesn't list the year in which each person was awarded the George Cross, unless I'm missing something.--TRUCO 22:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Oh! Sorry! The year (and date) each award was granted was the same date they were published in the London Gazette; each entry has a corresponding London Gazette reference that states the day they were published. I hope this will suffice? Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
            • I apologize, but not in this case. Most award articles (of all nature) list the date in which the recipient received the award in the table, the references should just verify them. If this is a yearly award, then the year which the recipient got the award can just be listed.--TRUCO 23:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
              • The George Cross is a gallantry award and may be awarded at any time. I have actually seen quite a number of lists that do not include the year the award was granted, and I think that it this case it would be redundant in a way as several of the medals were awarded during the same year as the recipient's actions. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
                • It just seems odd, however, that the date they were awarded the award is not listed. Is this an annual award?--TRUCO 01:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
                  • Nope, not an annual award. It is the civilian counterpart of the Victoria Cross (the British equivalent to the Medal of Honor), and can be awarded at any time. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 01:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
                    • Oh okay, its fine then, thank you for clarifying that.--TRUCO 01:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support As Abraham says, I have done some work on the list, mainly ironing out the little problems with it. It meets all the criteria in my opinion, it is extremely well-cited, it meets the MOS, the lead is ok and it has an appropriate images. No issues here, regards, Woody (talk) 18:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • "for actions which are not "in the face of the enemy"" "which"-->that (restrictive clause)
  • "The Royal Warrant establishing the awards"-->The Royal Warrant that established the awards
  • "and would henceforth formally became recipients" Wrong tense.
  • "Fortitude whilst a prisoner of war, Korean War" "whilst" is archaic, use the simpler "while".
  • "Fortitude whilst a prisoner of war, Second World War" Same comment. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for the comments. All of the above have been actioned. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 23:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • What makes http://www.gc-database.co.uk/exchanges.htm a reliable source? Dabomb87 (talk) 23:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The George Cross Database is the unofficial website on the George Cross and its recipients. They have published several books on both the decoration and biographical information on recipients, leading me to believe the site is reliable. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 23:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Could you provide a link to the books please (Google Books link or something else). Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 23:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • The best link would probably be the site's main page [2]. Also, it was just brought to my attention the site is published by Chameleon HH Publishing Ltd. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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