Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lambda Literary Awards winners and nominees for science fiction, fantasy and horror

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The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 00:19, 26 November 2008 [1].

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Lambda Literary Awards winners and nominees for science fiction, fantasy and horror

List is comprehensive and referenced, and better looking and easier to neavigate than even the official lists. Hoping to make it part of a featured topic.Yobmod (talk) 15:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

• "Lambda Literary Awards (also known as the "Lammies") are awarded yearly by the US-based Lambda Literary Foundation to published works which celebrate or explore LGBT themes." "which"-->that.
• "The category for speculative fiction works has changed a number of times" "a number of times"-->"several times".
• "In early years the genre categories" Could you be more specific than "early years"?
• Per WP:COLORS, you need to use symbols with colors to represent the information in the key.
• "Samuel R. Delany has additionally won the lifetime achivement award twice." "additionally"-->also.
• "Nicola Griffith also holds the record for most nominations, while and Perry Brass has the most nominations without winning, having been a losing finalist four times." Dabomb87 (talk) 08:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I changed all the grammar ones per the suggestions.

For the colours, i simply wrote the colour name next to the legend (they were already described in the preceding sentence.) Is that now ok?

Thanks!Yobmod (talk) 18:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

For the colours, you need symbols (such as * ¤ ‡ †) also. Writing the name of the colors does not help color blind readers. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

But the colours only enforce the info given by bolding the winners and writing win/nom. Colourblind readers would have no trouble with it: This is not a case of colours being used as the only method to distinguish the winners. Plus colourblind people can distinguish between lavender and white. Even blind readers will have the info, due to it being written out. What would be the benefit of using symbols as a 4th way? or am i missing something on the guideline page (i'd never seen it before, but don't see any requirment for symbols with colours). btw I changed the grey to green to give better contrast, if that's a problem. I want to get it right this time, so the colours work for the other awards lists i'm working onYobmod (talk) 10:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

"Ensure that colour is not the only way used to convey important information." (from WP:COLORS). For the rows with the green background color (which is much better than grey by the way), use a symbol. For the rows with white background, don't add any symbol and mention in the legend that the past nominees' rows don't have a symbol. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I see what you are saying; the colors are associated with the text.Dabomb87 (talk) 14:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

It promted me to clarify things anyway :-).Yobmod (talk) 14:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Move the key to above the table. I almost missed it. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I wrote a sentence pointing out the key, with an internal link, is that ok, or should i still move it? I think it is a bit big to have on top, but is only 30 second job to move if you still think it is needed.Yobmod (talk) 14:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it is that big. Readers shouldn't have to scroll all the way down to find out those abbreviations mean. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, i mildly disagree, cos 99% of readers will have no interest in the official category titles, and the abreviations are intuitive, but i moved it to avoid any confusion, as suggested. I also made the colours into a table to make it even clearer (as there was a load of spare space beside the key). Thanks!Yobmod (talk) 08:12, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Support, meets criteria and all my concerns addressed.Dillypickle (talk) 16:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Resolved issues, User:Dillypickle (talk)

Comments from Dillypickle (talk · contribs) Comments Is there no free picture available? "...United States in the year current to the award..."

current or prvious year? this is not consistant.

Link names the first time: "...and Perry Brass has..." Dillypickle (talk) 11:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I added a fair use image of the medal design. I could include a photo of the actual medal, but it is embossed metal that is difficult to see anything of.

Linked first use of names (but left repeated entries in the table linked).

Year is current to the award, but previous to the ceremony year. I clarified the lead.

All done.Yobmod (talk) 16:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Comment Ref 2 and the general ref deadlinked according to this. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Weird! For me too. I re-found the page and updated the links, and they work again - must have been a tiny change in the url, cos looked the same to me, and my bookmark for the page still worked somehow.Yobmod (talk) 08:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

While i was there, i also de-bolded the winners, expanded the LGBT accronym and ordered the titles that start with an article, per comments on another list. Now i'm sorting the authors by surname.Yobmod (talk) 09:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

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