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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Hahc21 03:45, 9 March 2014 [1].

Jake Gyllenhaal filmography edit

Jake Gyllenhaal filmography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): — Tomíca(T2ME) 20:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because... although I created and worked for it pretty much fast, according to me the list satisfies the criteria to be a FLC. Jake Gyllenhaal's impressive roles and appearances make this list shine even more. I think that the lead covers the most important content from the table, which is sortable and people can see how much the film budget was and its theater gross. For all the users who oppose I would like to post their comments so I can improve the article. Thank You — Tomíca(T2ME) 20:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from WikiRedactor
  • In the sortable tables, you might want to consider putting the column for years before the column with the film titles. It appears to be a standard for filmography tables from what I've seen.
  • Well, actually there is not a standard. In this kind of tables they use the years first, while in examples like this one (which I have created), I use the name of the film first. — Tomíca(T2ME) 16:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I believe you can drop the 's' in 'music videos' in the heading "Music videos appearances".

This list really looks to be in good shape, and I don't have any further issues; I trust that you will make these minor corrections, and I am confident in giving my support for the nomination. WikiRedactor (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiRedactor: Thank you very much. I hope you are satisfied with my responses:). — Tomíca(T2ME) 16:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm happy with the revisions! WikiRedactor (talk) 16:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Jimknut (talk) 18:41, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from jimknut
  • Infobox: This is the first filmography I have seen with an infobox. It looks similar to the infoboxes for discographies and bibliographies. I have no problem with it but since it is one that you created without a previously existing template I think a vote might be needed from other reviewers as to whether or not it is needed.
  • Introduction: "Jake Gyllenhaal is an American actor who has appeared in many motion pictures and several television programs, commercials and music videos." — "Many" and "several" are too vague and arbitrary. Christopher Lee and John Carradine both appeared in over 200 films each, so Gyllenhaal's 28 motion pictures do not seem like "many" in comparison. If you are going to keep the discography/bibliography-like infobox then I suggest starting the introduction similar to a discography or bibliography; i.e. "Jake Gyllenhaal is an American actor who has appeared in 28 motion pictures, 5 television programs, 1 commercial, and 2 music videos."
  • In the introduction you state that he appeared in "motion pictures" whereas in the infobox and table you have "Films". I think you should change it to one or the other. (I would go with "Motion pictures".)
  • Introduction: "In 2005, he co-starred opposite Heath Ledger as Jack Twist in the romance drama Brokeback Mountain." — I suggest changing this to: "In 2005, he co-starred as Jack Twist opposite Heath Ledger in the romance drama Brokeback Mountain." Otherwise it makes it seem as if Ledger played Twist and not Gyllenhaal.
  • Films: The Day After Tomorrow and The Man Who Walked Between the Towers do not sort properly.
  • Commercials and Music video appearances: What did Gyllenhaal do in these? Can you list his roles in them?
  • Year before or after title: As with WikiRedactor I prefer the year column listed before the title but listing the year after the title is exceptable. However, if you're going to do this then you should do it with all of the tables so that there is a uniformity throughout the article. At present time the Music video appearances table puts the year column in fifth place. Jimknut (talk) 18:18, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the comments @Jimknut:. I agree this is the first FLC containing the discography-look-alike filmography box (although I did not make it by myself and other filmographies have it too). If a voting is needed where it should happen? As for the other comments (issues) I believe I resolved them. Also added the roles column with the respective roles his is playing in the music videos and the commercial. Cheers! — Tomíca(T2ME) 18:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just out of curiousity, what other filmographies use an infobox? Jimknut (talk) 21:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • After a bit of research I figured it out it's the best to remove it. The only one I can found using it is Christian Bale filmography (I created it, but didn't add the box, somebody else did it in the later stage, will remove it from there too). So I guess it's fine now. Cheers! — Tomíca(T2ME) 00:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to the IMDb listing for Nailed [2] the name of Gyllenhaal's character is "Howard Birdwell". THe IMDb is sometimes inaccurate but, still, putting the name in might be better than "unknown". Jimknut (talk) 03:23, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I agree that putting the name is better than unknown, but what should I cite as a source for it? I've been told that IMDb is unreliable source and I can't find other third party reliable source mentioning his role in the movie... — Tomíca(T2ME) 10:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support — Looks good. Jimknut (talk) 18:41, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Starting comments – by IndianBio. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 17:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Born to the Gyllenhaal family --- This should be Born in the Gyllenhaal family per nomen, like Born in the USA
  • I think somewhere you need to establish that Stephen is his father,without people having to read Gyllenhaal family.
  • I am not sure about this one, but check it out. — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • although the film was received warmly from critics,[1] Gyllenhaal's portrayal of the NASA engineer Homer Hickam was praised --> This is not correct, the sentence should begin as a fresh one. Also received warmly and praise are not contrasts, they are complementary. So the although usage is also wrong.
  • alongside his sister Maggie and Drew Barrymore --> This makes it sound as if Drew is also his sister, suggest a comma after Maggie.
  • Gyllenhaal starred in the 2004 disaster film The Day After Tomorrow;[3] despite receiving mixed reviews from critics,[6] the film was a commercial success at the box office --> Another instance where a splitting would benefit the construction or a tweak like this: "Gyllenhaal starred in the 2004 disaster film The Day After Tomorrow, which, despite receiving mixed reviews from critics, emerged a commercial success at the box office".
    Done. — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here's the thing, why don't you end the Lead with something concise, like oneor two sentences from critics which talk about Jake as an actor or his acting methods? At present it has a bit of proseline effect with sentences going in a particular structure "In XXXX, he starrted in film YYYY, received a/b/c reaction"
  • Well, that basically happens with every filmography (I explain facts about how the film is going/went). However, if you see there are some facts about his most important roles and acclaim and awards he gained. Also, I reduced the use of "In XXXX" etc. I think it's okay as it is. — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • USD$ the $ symbol isnot necessary when you write USD.
  • Some of the reference titles need an en-dash.
  • The magazine articles needs issn and the album booklet references needs catalogue ID.
    Done for the magazine reference, changed the booklet refs with an iTunes ones since I was not sure about the ID. — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The main infobox image. I think it works perfectly fine without the upright parameter and it is defaulting itself to screen size as well. I checked it in my laptop lowering the resolution.

Here are my key scrutiny on this list. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 16:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Brilliant, and I'm happy to provide my support for this wonderful list. Congratulations if it gets promoted. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 14:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: (having stumbled here from my FLC discussion page). Very well organized. Good presentation throughout. High quality referencing. — Cirt (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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