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The list was not promoted by Scorpion0422 00:02, 15 February 2009 [1].

Ipecac Recordings discography

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Despite there being a shedload of discography FLs, there is something of a dearth of ones pertaining to record labels. This, I hope, is sufficient to meet the bar. Seegoon (talk) 12:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose/Commentsfrom Truco (talk · contribs) - fails FL Cr 1, 2, 3, and 4.

  • Ipecac Recordings is an independent record label based in Orinda, California, founded in 1999 by Greg Werckman and Mike Patton. - you have three options here, reword to Ipecac Recordings is an Orinda, California based independent record label founded in 1999 by Greg Werckman and Mike Patton. , Ipecac Recordings is an independent record label based in Orinda, California. It was founded in 1999 by Greg Werckman and Mike Patton., or Ipecac Recordings is an independent record label based in Orinda, California that was founded in 1999 by Greg Werckman and Mike Patton.
    • I think I've solved this by removing some extraneous information.
  • Its creation also provided the Melvins – friends of Werckman and Patton's – with a label. - 1)capitalize The since its their proper name 2)Source for this statement?
    • 1) Not quite; they're known simply as Melvins. I could simply remove "the", though. 2) Done.
  • Ipecac has distributed other artists including Isis, Dälek, and many of Patton's other projects and collaborations. - you mean "signed" not distributed since we're talking about people
    • I've added "material by", as I don't actually have a source regarding contracts and so forth.
  • ..it has also released works of comedy and soundtracks as well as a book and DVDs. ---> it has also released books, DVDs, soundtracks, and works of comedy.
    • Altered.
  • Alongside original content, it has been responsible for re-releasing older and imported recordings originally handled by other labels as well as vinyl releases of later albums by Queens of the Stone Age. - comma before as well
    • OK.
  • The lead needs to summarize the list more, in terms of what was the first release, most recent release, and other significant releases.
    • The first release is mentioned, and the most recently released is bound to change at least once a month. I wouldn't mind changing it, but I'm not sure that's so vital.
  • A key should be made to explain the table terms like IPC-###
  • Releases are in the form of compact discs (CD) or vinyl; either 7 inch singles (7") or long plays (LP). - if a key is made, the acronyms don't need to be here they can be in the table
  • The dashes need to be right aligned, like the rest of the entries in the table
    • Do you mean left-aligned?
  • Some of the entries, like "Antivermin", need to be in a {{sort}} template to sort with other entries of the letter "A"
    • Done. Fantastic, thanks. I didn't know how to address that.
  • Why aren't the album entries for the The Melvins in italics?
  • The refs need to be formatted correctly according to the instructions at {{cite web}}
    • Could you be a touch more specific please?
  • The refs need to be in a general/specific format, in which the general ref verifies the entire list and the specific refs verify specific statements, as seen in this FL's references.--TRUCO 22:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done.
  • Thanks for your feedback. I feel I've addressed everything except for those I've noted and what you've mentioned regarding a key. Do you have an idea regarding how I could go about this? I agree it would be handy, but I'm not sure how to implement it. Thanks, Seegoon (talk) 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Followup
  • Why is kid not capitalized? I checked his article and his name is not in lowercase
  • Cool.
  • For the {{cite web}}, disregard.
  • For the key, make a table like its seen in this FL, and add the entries I noted above.
  • How's it look?
  • Disregard all my comments regarding the Melvins, including their singles.
  • I meant left-aligned for that comment above.
  • Done.
    • OK, I'm going to have to give this some thought... I'm not sure what is pertinent at the moment.
  • It looks much better now, including the key, but the lead still needs to be expanded because its not representative of the list itself. So give that some thought, until then I can't support.--TRUCO 22:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "Ipecac Recordings is an American independent record label, founded in 1999 by Greg Werckman and Mike Patton. " Comma not necessary.
    • That was a leftover, thanks.
  • "The label was established in order to
    • Okely dokely.
  • "Ipecac has distributed material by other artists " Comma after here.
    • Yup yup.
  • "Though the label's main output is rock and experimental music, it has also released DVDs, a book, soundtracks and a work of comedy." Needs a source.
    • Like what, the main general source itself? This is fairly self-evident when the table is consulted.
  • WP:CAPTION, image captions that are not complete sentences should not have periods after them.
    • OK.
  • "Flower With No Color"-->Flower with No Color
    • Thanky.
  • "Delìrium Cordìa"-->Delìrium Còrdia
    • Tasty.
  • "Neither Here Nor There"-->Neither Here nor There
    • Yuss.
  • The link to Isms is incorrect, I think.
    • 'Tis indeed.
  • "Mouse On Mars"-->Mouse on Mars
    • Affirmative.
  • "Otto Von Schirach"--> Otto von Schirach
    • Jä.
  • "A Senile Animal"-->(A) Senile Animal
    • Of course.
  • Era Vulgaris should link to Era Vulgaris (album).
    • It should.
  • "Bohren & Der Club of Gore"-->Bohren & der Club of Gore Dabomb87 (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Looks pretty good. A few suggestions/comments, mostly based on Dischord Records discography and Load Records discography:

  • The "IPC" before every catalog number is redundant. We all know they're Ipeecac catalog numbers, so just go with the numbers.
    • I see your point. Though it should still be apparent how they're formatted; do you think that information could go in the key?
      • I think that would be a fine place to put it.
  • Columns with numbers (ie the date column) should be centered. Also, I think it would be better to put the year column to the left, as per pretty much every other FL discograpy (artist and label).
    • Is there a way to centre them all at once instead of doing it over a hundred times? My only issue with moving the year column is that it breaks the sortable function if the rows are blended; also, they're not precisely chronological. But yeah, you're right for the sake of uniformity.
      • Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to center a whole column all at once. And if you want to keep the sort function you don't need to merge the cells. I prefer them merged, but that's just a personal preference. But I would say the positioning and the centering of the column is more important than merging cells.
  • As per the other label discogs I mentioned, and based on info from the lead, co-releases between multiple labels should probably be noted.
    • Are you referring to the Queens of the Stone Age vinyls? If
      • Yes, if those are the only ones. What about 10, 12, 15, 36, 37, and 41 (for a start)?
  • "Live - Psalm 69 Tour 1992 [cancelled]" needs a citation.
    • Sure.
  • What makes scenepointblank.com or furious.com reliable sources?
    • They probably wouldn't be for simple information, but they are each hosting interviews with Greg Werckman, one of the label's co-founders.
  • Some external links would be good.
    • Sure thing, good idea.
  • A column header shouldn't be a symbol (#). Replace with "No."
    • OK.

If you can take care of these, I'd be happy to support. Drewcifer (talk) 10:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback – I'll get to work right away! Seegoon (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Because of image placement, please read WP:BUNCH
    • Done, thank you.
  • IPC-009, Live - Psalm 69 Tour 1992. I'm guessing the [cancelled] means it was never released. If so it doesn't belong in a discography.
    • It's in there at the moment because of a desire for comprehensiveness; should I trash it completely, add a footnote, or put it in the lead?
  • Is there anything that shows that the releases or even the label are notable? The page relies heavily on WP:SPS and primary sources.
    • I see what you mean, but I was following the precedent set by two preceding label discography FLs. What criteria does it have to satisfy? As for the sourcing, I'll add some third-party listings as are present in the other FLs.

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I'm going to get on addressing these issues straight away. Seegoon (talk) 23:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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