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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 19:06, 11 July 2009 [1].

19th Golden Melody Awards edit

Nominator(s): Arsonal (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because it is the most complete and thorough article for any Golden Melody Award-related articles. It is the most recent award ceremony excluding this year's awards which has not occurred. The awards is dubbed the "Chinese-language Grammys" (actual citation in the GMA article). There hasn't been any changes to the article since I updated it in December and nominated it for a DYK. Arsonal (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'll do a full review later, but please note that we do not link dates in articles anymore (see WP:MOSNUM); I already fixed this in this article, but keep that in mind for future reference. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco
Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)
General
  • Dabs, external links check out fine.
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  • Initially, there were 10,632 submissions from 185 companies in the music industry, making it the largest submission pool to date. -- to date is WP:WEASEL, I would instead use something like "in the Awards' history"
I was wondering about doing that because the nominees for the 20th Golden Melody Awards are already out. Although the number of submissions for that is out somewhere, I haven't had the chance to look for it, and I'm not sure if it surpassed the 19th GMAs. Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well I would start by looking that information up so you can make the necessary changes.--Truco 503 16:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done The 20th Golden Melody Awards only has 7,982 submissions, so submissions for the 19th is the largest in GMA history. Arsonal (talk) 20:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Winners for artistic and traditional music categories were announced on June 21, 2008 at Taipei County Hall in a ceremony separate from that for popular music categories. -- Unlink traditional music and popular music per WP:OVERLINK
Done Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • In contrast, artists from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan, and Canada attended the awards ceremony for popular music categories, which was held at the Taipei Arena on July 5, 2008. -- 1)I'm confused, artists came from Singapore and Malaysia or from Singapore, Malaysia? Which is it? If its the latter, you should just mention it as Singapore.
Well, Singapore is not in Malaysia, so they are separate. I'm not sure why the other locations were delinked by Dabomb87. Arsonal (talk)
  • Oh okay. He unlinked them because of WP:OVERLINK-- do not link common geographical locations.--Truco 503 16:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Chua's seven nominations for her album Goodbye & Hello was also the most ever received by a female artist. -> "Chua's record seven nominations for her album Goodbye & Hello are also the most received by a female artist."
Done Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • However, Chou's primary lyricist Vincent Fang was present to receive the award of Best Lyricist for Chou's song "Blue and White Porcelain" (Chinese: 青花瓷; pinyin: qīng huā cí). -- I would +"on his behalf" after receive the award
Done I changed it to the song because it was Fang who was supposed to receive the award anyway. Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Checks out fine
References
  • I'm not an expert on international sources, so what makes Yam.com and StarNest.cn reliable sources?--Truco 503 01:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I guess they are some of the numerous news portals in China. I deferred back to previous FA articles related to Chinese music, particularly Jay Chou and S.H.E, which also used a few of these news portals as sources. Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me.--Truco 503 16:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- Previous issues resolved/clarified; meets WP:WIAFL.Truco 503 02:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comment Check the toolbox to your right; there are a few dead links. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The tool reads it dead but the links are alive and well.--Truco 503 21:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, they're still dead for me. [2], [3] and [4]. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "In contrast"-->By contrast
Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This is the second time that Chua has won this award. She last won the award two years prior in the 17th Golden Melody Awards."-->Chua won the Best Mandarin award for the second time; she last won the award in the 17th Golden Melody Awards ("two years prior" seems unnecessary to me).
Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "are also the most "
Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "due to his tour schedule in China" Tour schedule, or tour? I think the latter.
Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "However, Chou's primary lyricist Vincent Fang was present to receive the award of Best Lyricist for the song "Blue and White Porcelain" (Chinese: 青花瓷; pinyin: qīng huā cí)." I don't see why "However" is here; this sentence does not contradict the previous one.
Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why are award names italicized in the image captions? Dabomb87 (talk) 02:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done I removed the italicization. Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources are mostly good, with the exception of the dead link. I don't mind, though I'm not sure what other reviewers will say. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The dead links need to be resolved.
Partially done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have removed the GMA2008.asia website from the list of external links.
  • I have removed Ref 10 because I don't think I can get that data back, and none of the pages from this GMA2008.asia page is archived. At this point, that detail seems too minor anyway.
  • Ref 11 (now Ref 10) now has a Google archive. The content is readable.
  • I have added a new reference for the performers section, but I don't know if I can get one for the award presenters section because that list also comes from the unarchived GMA2008.asia website (Ref 5). I have been unable to find a replacement. I am reluctant to remove it completely because that is a lot of content. This list can be cross-checked with the mirror article on the Chinese Wikipedia, which was added prior to the addition of the performers section here on the English Wikipedia.

*Ref 9, add format=PDF to the citation template. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I ran this article through AWB and found a couple of minor errors that I fixed. I will come back and look at it closer soon. --Kumioko (talk) 04:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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