Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tower Building of the Little Rock Arsenal/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 15:17, 8 May 2008.

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Tower Building of the Little Rock Arsenal

I have been working on this article for quite a while and I think it's ready to be featured. --The_stuart (talk) 15:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment Tony is correct, one FAC at a time. Please pick one to go forward with. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• What makes the following reliable sources?
  • http://users.aristotle.net/~russjohn/warriors/macpark.html
    • The fact that he has a whole website devoted to Arkansas history, plus that article has three citations at the bottom. --The_stuart (talk) 21:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
      • No, that does not make it a reliable source. I can create a website devoted to Arkansas history and write some articles with citations, too, but that doesn't make it reliable. Is he a noted scholar of Arkansas history? If not, this doesn't appear to be a reliable source; use the sources he provides instead.
        • I've removed this source. --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

BuddingJournalist 22:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

• Current ref 2 "From Turbulence to Tranquility .." is lacking publisher information. Also current refs 6, 7 and 12 which are the same website, different parts.
  • Fixed --The_stuart (talk) 21:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

• http://www.oldstatehouse.com/educational_Programs/classroom/arkansas_news/detail.asp?id=974&issue_id=45&page=6 is lacking a publisher Current ref 12
  • Fixed --The_stuart (talk) 21:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

All other links checked out okay. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Resolved issues. Karanacs (talk) 13:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• should "native American" have the N capitalized too?
  • Fixed. --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• "The auction was actually a public one and nearly caused a riot" - what auction/ This is the first time one has been mentioned - appropriated makes it sound like the gov't just took the land
  • Thats the idea I got from what I've read as well, but I removed the bit about the riot because it came from the "unreliable source" --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• a sentence that begins with a number (such as $14,000) should have the number written out
  • Fixed. --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• any information on why they chose this land for the arsenal?
  • None that I've found. --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• this sentence is awkward; " On January 15, 1861 the state legislature had determined to hold a referendum on February 18 to determine if a state convention should be held to consider the issue of secession and to elect delegates to such a convention" (too many determines and dates in quick succession)
• Fixed. --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• I agree that http://users.aristotle.net/~russjohn/warriors/macpark.html is not a reliable source

Oppose. Interesting topic, but numerous MOS issues and the prose should be improved to allow better flow within paragraphs. There are also some referencing issues.

• Need metric conversion for all standard units: acres should also include hectares and ft should include m
• the first paragraph doesn't seem to be organized that well; should be rewritten for better flow
  • Reworded, hope it's better. --The_stuart (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Better, but still not great. The prose is not very good and it still doesn't flow that well. Karanacs (talk) 13:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• need a citation immediately after a quotation even if the next citation covers that (just in case someone later inserts text)
• The first paragraph in the Civil War section needs better transition between thoughts; I understand why the telegraph message is important to the section but it seems to be just dropped into the paragrpah.
• The first part of this sentence does not make much sense "The item was intended simply as a piece of news, but telegraph lines quickly spread the news through out the state, fueling procession sentiment" (and do you mean "procession" or "pro-secession"?)
• I'd like to see a sentence or two about the standoff between the governor and the troops added to the lead
• I think this sentence is missing a word or two "The building was drastically altered the inside and outside"
• There is no publisher listed for ref 2 (From Turbulence to Tranquility: The Little Rock Arsenal Part 1. ) I see now that several other of the refs come from this site and none have publishers listed
• No publisher listed for ref 12 ("Bernie Babcock Gained Fame as Author")

Karanacs (talk) 14:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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