Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Loose (album)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 01:39, 21 January 2008.

Loose (album)

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I'm nominating this article for featured article because it's simply such an amazing article, it includes everything sources, pictures, music samples and it gives you a complete idea about the album. and also don't forget the success of the album worldwide, basically it's the highest selling album by a female artist in 2006-2007. Raivena (talk) 14:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The audio sample buttons smear into the text for me, that may need fixing. (WinXP Firefox 2.0.11 about 1000 px wide screen resolution) I can do a screenshot if that's not clear. ++Lar: t/c 15:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'd try peer review first. There's a lot of material here, so there's definitely potential for an FA star in the future. However, it currently does not meet FA requirements.
- 1a The prose needs an overhaul and a copyedit to weed out grammatical/punctuation errors. Some random examples:
  - "Many editions were released after the commercial success of the album including the summer limited edition which was released after one year of the original release [1] In addition there was also the "Loose the Concert", her first live DVD which featured live performances of her album's hits."
  - "Loose earned Furtado many important awards, the Grammy Awards are in forefront of those awards with two nominations including a..."
  - "Loose changed Furtado's music line after her previous albums Whoa, Nelly! and Folklore because of her collaboration with Timbaland." (What's a "music line"?)
  - "After she believed she had accomplished that, she felt she had, according to her, "a lot of freedom to do the music I really love."" Redundancy
  - Alternating between "hip-hop" and "hip hop".
  - In encyclopedic prose, it's best to avoid contractions (don't, isn't, etc.).
  - The Style section is a bit too quote-heavy in my opinion. Makes for awkward prose at times.
- 1c "In early 2008 the rumours of plagiarism revived when a video hosted on YouTube compared the track Wait For You with a song of Turkish folk singer (ashik) Muhlis Akarsu." A YouTube video is not a reliable source. Is there a reliable published article for this?
- 2a The lead should be expanded to provide a summary of the entire article.
- 2c References are not properly formatted (towards the end, they become just URLs). BuddingJournalist 19:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: having helped to promote the three main singles of Loose to GA status, I visited the album page many times - and it always had potential but was disorganized. If most things are fixed, I can support (and try helping with what the FAC demands). But the problems are many: expanding "Critical reception" a bit more, enhance the samples' captions, expand the lead (say about Furtado's change, at least), format references properly (some are broken, BTW) and do something about the two sections on the singles. And I wonder if someday those song articles can be FACs... igordebraga ≠ 23:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: I tried to review the article line-by-line but I was unable to finish it because the whole article is disorganized. Try to read Love. Angel. Music. Baby., and nominate for GA. --BritandBeyonce (talk) 00:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions:

Fix the lead.
Fix the order of section headings.
Fix the style section, its kinda news article. It looks like reporting because of the abuse of "Furtado said."
Redundancies.
Redundant sections and tables.
Performance should talk only the album's performance. Why is there a section for the album's single's performances?
The is a section dedicated for singles. Why make it "track" or "songs" to fully state all the tracks of the album and slightly mention its chart performances.
And many more. I look forward to this article's next FAC. Thank you. --BritandBeyonce (talk) 10:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Object. As one of the major contributors to this article, I echo most of the comments above and feel I should add some of my own observations. I've just had to clean out a lot of the unsourced, inadequately sourced and inaccurate content (of which there was a lot) that wouldn't immediately have been obvious as such to anyone unfamiliar with the subject matter or the edit history of the article. I also removed some oddly worded and/or opinionated sentences ("dreamy romantic single" etc.) and sound samples that didn't have applicable fair use rationales; that said, there's still a lot of work to be done. What is most obvious to me is that the article just isn't comprehensive in its current state—Furtado and Timbaland's pre-Loose collaborations aren't mentioned, for example. Thorough research into what has been written and said about the album in reliable sources should be undertaken, and that can be summarised in the article. Also, there is significant overlap between the two "Singles" section, and the second one needs copyediting and has a lot of information specific to the singles that is outside the scope of an album article and should be taken out. Extraordinary Machine (talk) 19:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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