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The article was promoted by Karanacs 22:23, 27 September 2011 [1].

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Nominator(s): Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 17:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Newly-revised and expanded biography of a man who went from state senator to lieutenant governor to governor to U.S. Senator to Commissioner of Baseball and back to governor. Chandler was a seriously busy nonagenarian who influenced Kentucky politics for the better part of six decades. I hope to address concerns within a few days at most and see this article promoted. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 17:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. I gave the article a copyedit a few weeks back and found it to be a great FAC candidate then, and that still looks to be the case. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyscape search - No issues were revealed by Copyscape searches. Graham Colm (talk) 19:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:07, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Consecutive citations should be in numerical order - ex. [2][22] instead of [22][2]
    • Done.
  • Is his directory entry under his full name or Happy Chandler?
    • Actually, on second look, it's "Chandler, Albert Benjamin (Happy)". Corrected.
  • Be consistent in what is and is not italicized
    • Assume you mean Hall of Distinguished Alumni. Fixed.
  • Shortened citations need to disambiguate between Harrison sources
    • Fixed by multi-author fix below.
  • FN 61: formatting
    • Fixed.
  • For shortened citations to multi-author works, be consistent in whether you include both authors
    • Only found Harrison and Klotter, which I fixed.
  • Directory bibliographic entry: formatting
    • Why do we even have {{CongBio}}, I wonder, since it doesn't even use any recognized bibliographic style?
  • Newspaper and journal/magazine sources without weblinks should include page numbers
    • Will have to track these down. Hope to have them soon.
    • Done.
  • Book sources should include publishers
    • Should be fixed now.
  • "University Press of Kentucky" or "The University Press of Kentucky"?
    • "The". One day, I'll quit copying and pasting from other articles and I'll stop getting this comment.
  • Use a consistent formatting for authors/editors of larger works (ie. "In...")
    • Couldn't find what you were referencing here. The bibliography uses all standard cite templates, so there may be inconsistencies among the templates.
      • "In Kleber, John E" vs "In J. T. Salter"? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:30, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • "I see!" said the blind man to the man who could not hear over the broken telephone. Just needed a little more clarification. Fixed now.
  • Be consistent in whether you provide publisher locations
    • Should be fixed now.
  • Watch for small formatting inconsistencies like doubled periods. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:07, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done.
Most concerns addressed. More later. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 21:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Should all be done now. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 16:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – Have reviewed up through the commissioner section; I'll try to come back later and look at the rest.

  • First term as governor: Prose redundancy from the section's first to second paragraphs. We have "to secure the nomination" and "Having secured the nomination" back-to-back.
    • Ick. I should have caught that earlier. Thanks.
  • In "and to end the common practice of assessing state employees...", the "to" is an excess word that can be removed without changing any meaning, making the prose a shade tighter.
    • Done.
  • Commissioner of baseball: Some over-citation is present here. To give an example, the section's second paragraph has five straight sentences with cites to ref 59. None of this information looks overly controversial; you could do fine with just one cite to this source at the end of the paragraph. The following paragraphs are similar in this regard. There are some things, like the press criticism, that are well-served by direct cites, but some pruning is in order elsewhere.
    • I'm always very leery about eliminating citations, since what seems non-controversial to one editor will inevitably be controversial to another. (Typically, this will occur 6 months to a year after removing the cite so I can't remember where it came from.) I'd really prefer to keep them if possible.
  • "In some cases, the offers were triple the salaries being paid in the Major League." In situations like this, the correct terminology sports-wise is "the Major Leagues". Sounds odd if you're unfamiliar with sports, but it is correct since there are two major leagues (American and National).
    • I've never fully understood how the National and American Leagues are any more than arbitrary designations, myself, but then again, the last time I followed baseball, I was 12 and the Braves' starting rotation was Glavine, Avery, Smoltz, and Leibrandt! Where I'm from, sports is Big Blue basketball and very little else. Changed.
  • Contraction needs fixing in "and didn't return by April 1, 1946."
    • Done.
  • Larry MacPhail's name should have the P capitalized. This occurs here and in the Other matters section.
    • Done.
  • Breaking baseball's color line: "Brooklyn Dodgers manager Branch Rickey had announced the signing Jackie Robinson...". Two things. First, "of" is needed before Robinson's name. Second, Rickey was the Dodgers' general manager, not manager.
    • Done and done.
  • Other matters: "Yankees-Dodgers" needs an en dash in a couple of places. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done.
Thanks for your review to this point. I look forward to the rest of it.

Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 13:36, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    • Governorship: Another contraction here: "weren't".
      • Fixed.
    • Typo in "In addition, it transferred the assessment and colleciton of taxes...".
      • Fixed.
    • Add "the" before "town" in "Chandler took similar actions in response to a protest in town of Clay."?
      • Done.
    • "The anti-Chandler forces eventually put forth Bert Combs as its nominee again." "its" → "their"?
      • This probably originally read "anti-Chandler faction"; hence "its", but I apparently changed one without the other. Fixed.
    • Does this say anywhere when Chandler was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame? The year of induction is given for the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame, and that's not nearly as prestigious as the baseball Hall. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:19, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's in the lead, but it should also have been in the body, which is wasn't. I've added it. Interestingly, his commissioner profile on MLB.com doesn't even mention that he was inducted at all. Seems like a rather glaring omission.
I assume there's more to come. I'll do my best to address any additional suggestions quickly. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 13:55, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – All of the comments I brought up have been addressed, and this is a high-quality article overall. A vast amount of research has clearly been done on Chandler, and the writing and other aspects appear FA-level to me. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:13, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment a couple of tiny technical questions: why isn't there a "last accessed" date for all on-line sources, just some of them? Some of the bibliography have page references as pp. A1 (for instance), why isn't that just p. A1? Why is Sports Illustrated wikilinked in the Further reading section but not in the bibliography? Two periods in the second Further reading ref, could be fixed. Any way you could collapse those suc-boxes? They make the article unnecessary long and I'm not sure even if you need to space the year ranges, all other year ranges in this article are unspaced. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:52, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spotcheck: The link for "Kentucky Governor Albert Benjamin Chandler" (NGA) is dead, and should be changed to this active one. Regardless, all material is found in the source, and I find no CP problems. – Quadell (talk) 15:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spotcheck: Harrison's "The Kentucky Encyclopedia" is referenced 21 times. I checked uses (d), (k), and (n). In each case, the source adequately covered the claims, with no close paraphrasing. – Quadell (talk) 15:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Article is thorough, well-written, and reliable. Prose is fine, and MoS is followed throughout. – Quadell (talk) 16:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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