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Gaur Brahmins edit

Hi, it is regarding this edit. The reason it was removed was because it used a British Era source and sources from that time period are not considered reliable per WP:RAJ. See the explanation here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Fylindfotberserk: Hi. The essay page WP:RAJ doesn't deem the British era sources completely unreliable or unusable and neither does it impose a blanket ban on their use. Jogendranath Bhattacharya's 1896 book "Hindu Castes and Sects" (the source in question) isn't even mentioned specifically and separately among the listed British era sources which are supposed to be "used with caution". Its use as a source for mentioning the supposed place of origin and other information related to Gaur Brahmins in the concerned article doesn't seem to be problematic or pseudo-historical in any way. Its removal seems very unwarranted. Besides, like so many British era sources, that book source is also heavily used in numerous wiki articles. Please explain more precisely on why that source should not be used in article Gaur Brahmins. Making a passing reference to WP:RAJ that doesn't even mention this source individually to remove it and its related content without precisely mentioning what exactly is wrong with them doesn't appear justified. - Vibhss (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps you need to discuss that in the talk page with User:Sitush who removed it in the first place, per WP:BRD. You seem to be interested in discussing it only after I removed it, and not before (the above comment of mine was on 13th Jan). Yes, people seem to enforce a blanket ban on British Era sources on caste/communities except census figures from that period. I beleive there are numerous consensuses against using those at WP:INB which is mentioned in WP:RAJ. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Fylindfotberserk: I'm not much active on this platform nowadays. I missed reading your earlier comment. There must be some specific conditions under which the British era sources are not supposed to be used. To not use them at all especially in stub articles where valuable and non-controversial content can be added using them doesn't sound justified. The essay WP:RAJ doesn't even talk about the concerned source (Jogendranath Bhattacharya book) particularly. Its emphasis is largely on the works of British/ European authors not on those of Indian authors. On another note, I want to discuss something about another article with you. Should I do it on your talk page ? Vibhss (talk) 22:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply