VaBthang4

Welcome!

Hello, VaBthang4, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• How to edit a page
• Help pages
• Tutorial
• How to write a great article
• Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  Hut 8.5 18:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

August 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Indianapolis Colts. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Hut 8.5 18:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah...

I suppose that could've been called an edit war but not sure how to fight off someone wanting to make silly changes for personal reasons. It looks like we did come to a consensus regarding the final version to the relocation segment.

I assume there is some sort of administrative penalty involved if someone is just bombing the place...however, I think it is clear that is not what I was doing.

I'm way new so...undoing other edits and adding my own is the only way I know. Sorry if I bothered anyone running the site. :o) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VaBthang4 (talk • contribs) 19:12, August 20, 2007 (UTC).

OK, that's understandable. Next time discuss with the other user (who I have also warned), and follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. If you weren't a new user you would have been blocked, as you reverted 11 times (I think) and you violated WP:3RR with the fourth. You can always ask for help using the links I've provided above. Hut 8.5 19:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Peace in our time

Errr... I certainly bare 50% of the responsibility for this debacle, but I stand by my reasons for my original edit - the article is fundamentally about the Colts - and I still feel that the Cleveland/Baltimore stuff is excessive to say the least and, in part, repeats material already in the article. I think I've figured out a way to tweak and trim things down and make it fit better, but I certainly wouldn't say we've reached a consensus - I just have better things to do. Having "Super Bowl" as two words is enough to stop the article showing up on my "things that irrationally irritate me" text search.

Honestly, I had you pegged as a one-note troll given the lack of edit comments. It's fairly obvious that that's not the case and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. Still, I'd suggest using the summary just to let other editors know what you're doing.

One other note, I still think the 60,020 capacity is the correct football capacity for the stadium - the series of figures in its own article look like the baseball capacities.

And out of curiosity, just what "personal reason" do you think I have? I'm not a fan of any of the three teams in question - I just prefer articles to be lean and mean and not drift. Majorclanger 00:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Cool...

Thanks Hut. I appreciate the grace.

As to the Cleveland and Baltimore information; when I came on and read the whole piece it was flowing with latent Hater-Ade towards the organization itself and implied toward the city of Indianapolis.

The history of the current Baltimore NFL team as well as its performance against the Colts is [for some] a very big part of the organization's history. It just is what it is. I did not make it that way...and nobody's dismissive perspective can undo it. You attempted to and you were wrong.

With regards to the capacity of Memorial stadium...it was not even as high as the current number [I acquiesced to] when the Colts wanted the changes made. But I do not feel to quibble over whether or not some condemned property could house 1000 rats or 1,500.

As to how you chose to orient yourself towards a new user and your perceptions about their behavior, that is of little concern to me. What I am concerned about is the way that the Colts organization has been portrayed since its move to the City of Indianapolis. Hence my passion on the subject matter displayed and boorish behavior in making certain that it is correct.

I apologize to anyone concerned for handling the edits incorrectly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VaBthang4 (talk • contribs) 14:48, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

I still fail to see how any post-settlement data regarding Baltimore and their team is appropriate to a Colts article, particularly the emphasis on the Super Bowl run - it can come across to a neutral (read: me) as having a non-neutral POV. I'm all in favor of balance, but if there was and anti-Indy slant there before, just take it out. More content is not always better; it's just more. At the moment, roughly 40% of the section covers events post-settlement (including the last sentence of the third paragraph following the citation), which is way too much. It also interrupts the flow of the article - it ticks along nicely chronologically until it jumps to 2007, then jumps back to 1984. I think that the stuff about the Baltimore team having a shot at stopping the Colts is fine, but should be merged with the 2006 season section. In hindsight, I should have done this instead of frying the whole thing.

Regarding the capacity, it's not really pertinent at all - rather than have questionable info with contradictory sources, I'm going to excise it entirely. It doesn't alter the point at all.Majorclanger 15:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hi, there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 16:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello.

I did see that. But it looks like there is some sort of automatic feature that names the author of the comments. I am not trying to hide my identity but I just figured since it automatic displays the author, what the heck. :o) VaBthang4 16:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Hope that helps.

You do realise you're talking to a computer program? Hut 8.5 17:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

__________________

LOL! No... VaBthang4 18:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

==Proposed deletion of The Curse of John Elway==

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article The Curse of John Elway, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Not an encyclopedic article, an opinion piece at best.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. De728631 (talk) 14:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of The Curse of John Elway

I have nominated The Curse of John Elway, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Curse of John Elway. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Omarcheeseboro (talk) 00:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Baltimore Stadium, 33rd Street - Army Navy Game 1944 a.jpg

This image is tagged as a non-free image and thus must comply with the all of the criteria listed on Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. As of now, it cannot be included on the Indianapolis Colts article because its image description page does not have a detailed, specific non-free use rationale as to why it may be used on that article. The only fair use rationale that is listed is for the Memorial Stadium (Baltimore) article.

If you would like the image back on the Indianapolis Colts article, please add a second non-free use rationale on the File:Baltimore Stadium, 33rd Street - Army Navy Game 1944 a.jpg page. See Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for more information. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:30, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem: History of the Indianapolis Colts

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as History of the Indianapolis Colts, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to contain material copied from http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/sports/football-pro/indpls_colts/history/colts.html, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

• If you have permission from the author to release the text under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA), leave a message explaining the details at Talk:History of the Indianapolis Colts and send an email with confirmation of permission to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". Make sure you quote the exact page name, History of the Indianapolis Colts, in your email. See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
• If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted "under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA), version 3.0, or that the material is released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:History of the Indianapolis Colts with a link to where we can find that note.
• If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License and GNU Free Documentation License, and note that you have done so on Talk:History of the Indianapolis Colts. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:History of the Indianapolis Colts saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:57, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Now that the listing period is closed, it seems that you may not have placed this content onto Wikipedia initially, unless you were also editing as 216.230.10.130 (talk · contribs · info · WHOIS), but rather copied it from the article Indianapolis Colts, where it had been placed in January 2009.

It is perfectly all right to copy content from one Wikipedia article to another, but unless all the content was added by you, you do have to attribute that content - material in Wikipedia is not public domain but instead is liberally licensed for reuse as long as the licensing terms are met. One of these requires attribution; see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.

I have attributed this content, but there are, obviously graver issues that may result in the loss of much of it not only from History of the Indianapolis Colts but also from Indianapolis Colts. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

File source problem with File:80thMachineGunners1918.png

Thank you for uploading File:80thMachineGunners1918.png. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. Please add this information by editing the image description page.

If the necessary information is not added within the next days, the image will be deleted. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem.

Please refer to the image use policy to learn what images you can or cannot upload on Wikipedia. Please also check any other files you have uploaded to make sure they are correctly tagged. Here is a list of your uploads. If you have any questions or are in need of assistance please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 19:44, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:32, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Mgadelbertcronkhite.jpg

Thank you for uploading File:Mgadelbertcronkhite.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. Please add this information by editing the image description page.

If the necessary information is not added within the next days, the image will be deleted. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem.

Please refer to the image use policy to learn what images you can or cannot upload on Wikipedia. Please also check any other files you have uploaded to make sure they are correctly tagged. Here is a list of your uploads. If you have any questions or are in need of assistance please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 00:34, 14 February 2016 (UTC)