Truefacts24
July 2024
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Hello! I'm Michaeldble. Your recent edit(s) to the page Germany national football team appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Michaeldble (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is widely known information. Uruguay wears 4 stars on their uniform. This is confirmed by fifa and I have proven it over and over. Accept it now. Truefacts24 (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Germany national football team. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
July 2024
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Acroterion (talk) 02:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Acroterion (talk) 02:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Acroterion (talk) 03:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- And not on the project page either. You are on the verge of a siteblock. Acroterion (talk) 03:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Switzerland national football team, you may be blocked from editing. Black Kite (talk) 05:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Excuse me, I never vandalized the Switzerland national team. Why do you say that? Please explain. I add relevant and accurate information that propels teams only. Nothing I ever put on Switzerland was incorrect, I actually made it more correct than it was before. Their best ever finish in a football tournament was the 1924 Olympics which they came second place which is equivalent to a World Cup runner-up finish since that tournament was the first world championship. That should be displayed on the front of their page with the World Cup finishes. Besides that piece of important history, I saw that you didn’t like how it was coded “regional” which is on the backend and viewers don’t read but I saw no other way to code it as world and it accomplished the same thing of putting it next to world cups.Truefacts24 (talk) 11:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the template uses the word "vandalize" when giving the false information warning, which is probably a bit harsh in this case, but the Olympics being a regional tournament is simply false. The article was perfectly OK as it was mentioning the Olympics in the prose. It would be really useful if you could - for now - stop your crusade for equivalence between the Olympics and the World Cups and simply discuss your proposed changes with other editors, especially when there is not a consensus for your changes. Black Kite (talk) 12:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- People need to understand the history of football more, and this is what I’m trying to accomplish by giving teams their proper credit. That is all. Only the 1924 and 1928 Olympics are equal in value to the World Cups, I would say with more teams involved and a crazy knockout bracket those Olympic editions (which were the first 2 organized by FIFA) were more difficult to win than the first world cup in 1930 which only had a few teams in it since everyone didn’t want to travel to Uruguay for it. But people need to give proper credit for these tournaments because they’re unlike all other Olympic football tournaments that came after or before. All others are amateur players only while also being U23 since 1992, which is part of the U23 Wikipedia page records, not the senior teams. These 2 tournaments are the whole reason the FIFA World Cup was able to exist and are essentially World Cups even though that aren’t, they’re Olympics organized by FIFA in the same way as a World Cup.Truefacts24 (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the template uses the word "vandalize" when giving the false information warning, which is probably a bit harsh in this case, but the Olympics being a regional tournament is simply false. The article was perfectly OK as it was mentioning the Olympics in the prose. It would be really useful if you could - for now - stop your crusade for equivalence between the Olympics and the World Cups and simply discuss your proposed changes with other editors, especially when there is not a consensus for your changes. Black Kite (talk) 12:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sop canvassing to find people to help you circumvent your block. Your conduct causes me to think that your block may need to be extended and/or changed to a siteblock. Acroterion (talk) 13:04, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Acroterion (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Block appeal, I broke no rules stated
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Truefacts24 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was blocked for being accused of personal attacks. I never personally attacked anyone. I was pointing out people trying to argue against me in a consensus discussion as having a conflict of interest because their page said they are fans of the team I was editing a true verified fact about and that fact makes it look like the 4 championships their country has are not as rare. I’m copying and pasting the following from the Wikipedia guideline page on the person attacks rule: “Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic“
Decline reason:
Being a fan of a team does not mean they have a conflict of interest.
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Truefacts24 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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I’m replying to my first block appeal. Here it is copy and pasted for full context, and my reply to the reply which I don’t agree with will be below:
Request reason: I was blocked for being accused of personal attacks. I never personally attacked anyone. I was pointing out a conflict of interest in people trying to argue against me in a consensus discussion because their page said they are fans of the team I was editing a true verified fact about and that fact makes it look like the 4 championships their country has are not as rare. I'm copying and pasting the following from the Wikipedia guideline page on the person attacks rule: "Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic"
Decline reason: Being a fan of a team does not mean they have a conflict of interest.
My reply: That is the definition of a conflict of interest, which is now subjective apparently. Either way, the rule for personal attacks doesn’t say there has to be an objective conflict of interest, simply the fact that I thought there was a “possible conflict of interest”, according to my subjection, indicates that I was in full compliance of rule and should never have received a block for that while trying to achieve a fair consensus.
Decline reason:
No, that is not in any way the definition of a Wikipedia conflict of interest. You're not going to get anywhere this way. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 01:10, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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I didn’t personal attack though, me observing that someone is behaving in a biased way isn’t an attack to them personally, rather my confession of their behavior. It’s not considered an attack on them in a personal way, only on the discussion we’re having regarding the subject matter at hand. Truefacts24 (talk) 01:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)